A New Approach

[Steve_uk]

Sheila hated boarding school so much that she left,having already had one expulsion.!!

No she wasn't expelled from Moira House, but couldn't fit in when Nevill packed her off mid-term. At Hethersett the whole class was expelled on Sheila's 17th birthday on the last day of term for ripping up their uniforms.

[David1819]

Is anyone going to bother posting Roger Wilkes citation index   

[Adam]

Is anyone going to bother posting Roger Wilkes citation index   

Is anyone going to post a proposed 3D reconstruction of the kitchen fight ?

Is anyone going to say what a forensic evidence breakthrough was from 18 months ago ?

Is anyone going to post Bamber's 6 received letters ?

Is anyone going to give details of his meeting with Bamber's legal advisors ?

Is anyone going to provide his committed 5th scenario ?

Is anyone going to provide proof Bamber's conviction was due to 'forgery & perjury' ?

Is anyone going to provide an alternative source to what Mary Mugford testified ?

Is anyone going to provide proof that it takes 30 minutes longer to walk 3 miles in the dark ?

Is anyone going to provide proof it takes 100 minutes to walk 3 miles ?

Is anyone going to provide proof the police put the bible onto Sheila's arm prior to photographs being taken ?

[David1819]

Is anyone going to post a proposed 3D reconstruction of the kitchen fight ?

Is anyone going to say what a forensic evidence was from 18 months ago ?

Is anyone going to post Bamber's 6 received letters ?

Is anyone going to give details of his meeting with Bamber's legal advisors ?

Is anyone going to provide his committed 5th scenario ?

Is anyone going to provide proof Bamber's conviction was due to 'forgery & perjury' ?

Is anyone going to provide an alternative source to what Mary Mugford testified ?

Is anyone going to provide proof that it takes 30 minutes longer to walk 3 miles in the dark ?

Is anyone going to provide proof it takes 100 minutes to walk 3 miles ?

Is anyone going to provide proof the police put the bible onto Sheila's arm prior to photographs being taken ?

I take it you don't want to post it as the sources given are either not credible or there are none 

[Adam]

Anyway I'm not going to get into David's game. Firstly because Wilkes's sources are a long list I'm not going to copy out. Secondly the book is available to buy.

I suspect CAL's book has not got much on the trial. So he is trying to say Wilkes's 90 pages on the trial is not a good enough source. Although Wilkes had hundreds of people he could have interviewed who attended the trial & he may have had access to court transcripts.

It has been known for a respected investigative crime author to acquire information & put correct information into factual crime book.

[Caroline]

I take it you don't want to post it as the sources given are either not credible or there are none 

Sources are;

Bamber himself
Trial transcripts
Statements depositions and reports
Documentation from The Manchester McKenzie Organization
The Boutflour's
The Eaton's
B Wilson
Stan Jones

There is no index as you very well know but that isn't necessary, the account of th trial is clearly from transcripts- unless you want to call Wilkes a liar too?

[Adam]

Sources are;

Bamber himself
Trial transcripts
Statements depositions and reports
Documentation from The Manchester McKenzie Organization
The Boutflour's
The Eaton's
B Wilson
Stan Jones

There is no index as you very well know but that isn't necessary, the account of th trial is clearly from transcripts- unless you want to call Wilkes a liar too?

The 'Acknowledgements' at the front is also a long list. Most of the people I have never heard of.

[Caroline]

The 'Acknowledgements' at the front is also a long list. Most of the people I have never heard of.

Yep but there are a few we all know

John Arkell - Gresham Head
A Aldridge QC
Ewen Smith
Edmund Lawson QC
Paul Terzeon .......

[David1819]

Sources are;

Bamber himself
Trial transcripts
Statements depositions and reports
Documentation from The Manchester McKenzie Organization
The Boutflour's
The Eaton's
B Wilson
Stan Jones

There is no index as you very well know but that isn't necessary, the account of th trial is clearly from transcripts- unless you want to call Wilkes a liar too?

There is no Index and no citation numbers? how am I supposed know that if I don't have the book? I assumed there was.

There is no transcript of Rivlins examination of Jeremy at trial. That is how I know Wilkes book is not based on the transcripts for a start. By not citing his sources in an index with corresponding citation numbers he can write whatever he wants unconstrained by the factual evidence.

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[Stephanie]

Do you know where I can read about JM allegedly being abused by her father/step father; or could this be a part of Bambers smear campaign?

Nothing has yet convinced me that the allegations made about JM re abuse/rape were all part of Bambers original smear campaign against her in order to bolster his claims that she was a "scorned women" etc.

I have found the following link http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4527.0.html though it's not clear who started it, nor indeed do any of the posts refer to the thread title.

I have also found a link where Caroline has kindly posted the Mckensie report http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4779.msg200880.html#msg200880

[Stephanie]

There is no Index and no citation numbers? how am I supposed know that if I don't have the book? I assumed there was.

There is no transcript of Rivlins examination of Jeremy at trial. That is how I know Wilkes book is not based on the transcripts for a start. By not citing his sources in an index with corresponding citation numbers he can write whatever he wants unconstrained by the factual evidence.

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I have a similar point of view about the majority of claims you make on here. When Asked direct questions to support the claims you often make you appear shy away and seemingly prefer to use any method of distraction in order to avoid backing up your claims.

[Stephanie]

There is no Index and no citation numbers? how am I supposed know that if I don't have the book? I assumed there was.

There is no transcript of Rivlins examination of Jeremy at trial. That is how I know Wilkes book is not based on the transcripts for a start. By not citing his sources in an index with corresponding citation numbers he can write whatever he wants unconstrained by the factual evidence.

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I just went back into my previous post to highlight the last statememt made by David in bold but it's gone, making my above post unclear and indeed imo could quite easily be misinterpreted leaving me open to critism!?

[Stephanie]

Nothing has yet convinced me that the allegations made about JM re abuse/rape were all part of Bambers original smear campaign against her in order to bolster his claims that she was a "scorned women" etc.

I have found the following link http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4527.0.html though it's not clear who started it, nor indeed do any of the posts refer to the thread title.

I have also found a link where Caroline has kindly posted the Mckensie report http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4779.msg200880.html#msg200880

Does a thread exist solely relating to the Mckensie report?

I've found a thread entitled "fraudulent" http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4779.0.html but have also read the report has been referred to, or signed off, as "fraudulent?"

There also this thread http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6690.msg304722.html#msg304722

[Stephanie]

Does a thread exist solely relating to the Mckensie report?

I've found a thread entitled "fraudulent" http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4779.0.html but have also read the report has been referred to, or signed off, as "fraudulent?"

There also this thread http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6690.msg304722.html#msg304722

Did Jeremy Bamber start these allegations? To whom is the source of this report?

[lookout]

JB's wit stat page 4. ref.abusive stepfather

JM's brutal rape in France ref. Justice for all--1996.