could jermy have walked to whf.

[Adam]

But there are no houses on the sea wall. It's true that someone MAY have been looking out their window, but it seems they weren't.

RB said the route passed no dwellings.

[Adam]

theres all sorts o people up about at that time o might poachers or a start threes people driving about people look out there windows about

how does he know one o his neighbours isn't going to look out the window.

The route passed no dwellings or went near any roads.

What were people poaching, wild buffalo ?

[nugnug]

The route passed no dwellings or went near any roads.

What were people poaching, wild buffalo ?

what about when he walks back to his cottage.

[Adam]

what about when he walks back to his cottage.

Same route. Same time period.

[Jane]

RB said the route passed no dwellings.

Hmm? I think that's stretching belief SLIGHTLY. It definitely ISN'T true if he came out the front of the house. I don't know what is the layout at the back but it would certainly run parallel with the ends of the gardens of the houses which were at right angles to Jeremy's house -the road crossing Head Street in a "T" shape. That being said, it IS open country with no borrowed light. The chances of seeing someone in dark clothes, IN the dark, IF someone chanced to look out of a window, would, I think, be pretty remote.

[Jan]

I doubt very much that the soil from a sea wall would be wildly different from that of a farm abutting a sea wall.

They would have checked the whole route for other things beside the different types of soil . And perhaps by the sea wall there would have been additional contents in the soil. And flora and fauna and all that type of thing . Like I said this was not the beginning of forensic science.

[Jan]

The route passed no dwellings or went near any roads.

What were people poaching, wild buffalo ?

City dweller .

[Jane]

They would have checked the whole route for other things beside the different types of soil . And perhaps by the sea wall there would have been additional contents in the soil. And flora and fauna and all that type of thing . Like I said this was not the beginning of forensic science.

For the whole of the time they believed Sheila to be responsible, what POSSIBLE reason could they have had to waste man hours looking at soil types, flora and fauna. I'd have thought night dews and precipitations, along with possible human traffic might have put paid to any evidence that might have previously been there.

[Jan]

For the whole of the time they believed Sheila to be responsible, what POSSIBLE reason could they have had to waste man hours looking at soil types, flora and fauna. I'd have thought night dews and precipitations, along with possible human traffic might have put paid to any evidence that might have previously been there.

So on the route which you know you are saying , no changes in soil ,  no changes in crops , no changes in surfaces . And Jeremy ( whilst being watched by Anne ) had time to clean out the tyres just in case they were checked .

He must have done a good job then . Because if there had been the slightest hint that bike had been on that route I am sure they would have used it .

[Jane]

So on the route which you know you are saying , no changes in soil ,  no changes in crops , no changes in surfaces . And Jeremy ( whilst being watched by Anne ) had time to clean out the tyres just in case they were checked .

He must have done a good job then . Because if there had been the slightest hint that bike had been on that route I am sure they would have used it .

Who would be looking for them? WHY would they be looking for them? Are you implying that Ann watched Jeremy 24/7? IF the bike was used, and he entered his territory as silently as he'd left it, he MAY have hosed down the bike when he got back. Why would police have gone into his back garden? For all YOU, I or anyone else knows, there very well MAY have been evidence en route. They didn't look for it at a time when they MAY have found it.

[Jan]

Same route. Same time period.

Nug nug meant the neighbours. I am sure you have seen the pictures . He did not live in the middle of a field.

[Jan]

Nugs's thread has been beneficial for guilters again. It's showed Bamber also had the option of walking to & from WHF.

However I still believe he cycled because -

The bike was brought over just before the massacre.

The one reason given why the bike was brought over was very weak, even by Bamber's standards.

Julie put in her WS that Bamber planned to cycle.

There is no reason why the police would find any forensic evidence on the bike a month later.

Cycling was easier.

So Julie knew he planned to cycle to the murders did she ?

[susan]

Maybe 1am - 3am was the rush hour period along the farm land. Like Charing Cross station in London at 8am.

Hahaha you could be right Adam you usually are

[Adam]

Nug nug meant the neighbours. I am sure you have seen the pictures . He did not live in the middle of a field.

Same route. Same time period.

[Adam]

So Julie knew he planned to cycle to the murders did she ?

It is in her WS. The extract I posted on page 1 of this thread.