Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm

[guest2181]

From what I've seen so far, someone could make a video from Sheila's point of view too and come up with all kinds of reasons why she might have done it. It is speculation about Jeremy's state of mind, his relationship with his parents and sister, and his motive.

Yes, I think that's a fair comment.

[Jane]

From what I've seen so far, someone could make a video from Sheila's point of view too and come up with all kinds of reasons why she might have done it. It is speculation about Jeremy's state of mind, his relationship with his parents and sister, and his motive.

They could, but the psychology wouldn't fit. A big part of the problem lay with Jeremy witnessing Sheila getting it all but not having to do anything for it. Sheila knew how to get her needs met and Jeremy's took second place. I'm not saying that's exactly how it was. I'm saying that's probably how Jeremy experienced it.

[Kaldin]

Nevill foresaw that he would die via a shooting incident? Oh really, that is pushing it a bit. In that case, he would make sure the guns weren't accessible, and he wouldn't have let Jeremy have access to them.

[Jane]

I also don't understand the caravan break in. It says he confessed the next day.

I thought he was only arrested for it after JM spilt the beans. 

Hehee! I'm doing a Lookout I'm certain that I read somewhere -it HAS to be here- that he (and Julie?) went and confessed the next day.

[guest2181]

Nevill foresaw that he would die via a shooting incident? Oh really, that is pushing it a bit. In that case, he would make sure the guns weren't accessible, and he wouldn't have let Jeremy have access to them.

It's a bit strange.

[Steve_uk]

Nevill foresaw that he would die via a shooting incident? Oh really, that is pushing it a bit. In that case, he would make sure the guns weren't accessible, and he wouldn't have let Jeremy have access to them.

Nevertheless that's how it was. As far as Sheila was concerned she was beginning to regain a little confidence, as reported by friend Agnes Mennie in July. Another friend John Morgan reported that on 14 July she told him how grateful she was to her parents for setting her up in the flat and helping her financially with the children. It's true Sheila was still ill, as evidenced by the silence on the journey down to White House Farm, but I think Jeremy sensed this was his opportunity with all the family gathered together, especially as June had made arrangements for Sheila's annual allowance, which had yet to come into effect.

[Kaldin]

There are so many inaccuracies in that video. Jeremy did not leave the gun on the table IMO. The table had plates and stuff on it and was cluttered, it wasn't clear as they have portrayed in the video.

[guest2181]

Hehee! I'm doing a Lookout I'm certain that I read somewhere -it HAS to be here- that he (and Julie?) went and confessed the next day.

 

[Steve_uk]

There are so many inaccuracies in that video. Jeremy did not leave the gun on the table IMO. The table had plates and stuff on it and was cluttered, it wasn't clear as they have portrayed in the video.

No but if you look beyond that you will get the gist as to the relationship between Jeremy, his sister and his parents.

[Kaldin]

Nevertheless that's how it was. As far as Sheila was concerned she was beginning to regain a little confidence, as reported by friend Agnes Mennie in July. Another friend John Morgan reported that on 14 July she told him how grateful she was to her parents for setting her up in the flat and helping her financially with the children. It's true Sheila was still ill, as evidenced by the silence on the journey down to White House Farm, but I think Jeremy sensed this was his opportunity with all the family gathered together, especially as June had made arrangements for Sheila's annual allowance, which had yet to come into effect.

But how would Nevill have predicted it, unless he heard Jeremy discussing it beforehand? If he did hear him, he would not have let Jeremy have access to guns.

[Kaldin]

No but if you look beyond that you will get the gist as to the relationship between Jeremy, his sister and his parents.

I am trying to look beyond the inaccuracies, but with so many of them the speculation re his relationships kind of loses a bit of credibility. As I said, someone could do a video re Sheila's relationship with her parents and children, and come up with the conclusion that she'd done it.

[Jane]

Nevill foresaw that he would die via a shooting incident? Oh really, that is pushing it a bit. In that case, he would make sure the guns weren't accessible, and he wouldn't have let Jeremy have access to them.

How do you propose he'd have done that, Kaldin? Jeremy was a grown man, What's nevill going to say when Jeremy asks for a gun, MORE, what's he going to do when Jeremy does as he always has done and goes to the -never locked because there isn't a lock- gun cupboard? I concur that the premonition MAY be pushing it a bit, however, I can recount an incident during which the argument between Jeremy and Nevill became so heated, that after Jeremy stormed out, Nevill broke down in tears. The person who witnessed it -a great friend of both Nevill and June- cried when he told me.

[Steve_uk]

But how would Nevill have predicted it, unless he heard Jeremy discussing it beforehand? If he did hear him, he would not have let Jeremy have access to guns.

Jeremy had access to guns due to the nature of farming work. Nevill probably sensed something was amiss whenever he glanced in his direction. He told Barbara that "the shooting season's coming up..accidents do happen". He probably thought he himself was the intended victim, not the whole family.

[guest2181]

No but if you look beyond that you will get the gist as to the relationship between Jeremy, his sister and his parents.

If they don't get the basics correct, then why should we expect anything else to be accurate?

[Steve_uk]

How do you propose he'd have done that, Kaldin? Jeremy was a grown man, What's nevill going to say when Jeremy asks for a gun, MORE, what's he going to do when Jeremy does as he always has done and goes to the -never locked because there isn't a lock- gun cupboard? I concur that the premonition MAY be pushing it a bit, however, I can recount an incident during which the argument between Jeremy and Nevill became so heated, that after Jeremy stormed out, Nevill broke down in tears. The person who witnessed it -a great friend of both Nevill and June- cried when he told me.

Was this John Seward Jane?