The rifle in the window.

[Steve_uk]

Couldn't they just have lain her on the ground in an attempt to administer CPR?

[lookout]

In the lower picture where the covers are partially drawn back,there is the blood on the sheet which matches the blood ( pattern ) on the back of Sheila's nightdress as shown in the laboratory pic of her nightdress.

[Jan]

Arrows by differences that appear between crime scene photos

[lookout]

I don't get this at all,in that horrendous pic of June,the door opens the other way ? Where Sheila is lying,June had been propped up against the door and was found behind it ?

[mike tesko]

Huh! I'll bet that alleged policeman wished he'd never got out of bed that morning. Oscar Wilde might have described it as  "Shooting her once was unfortunate. Shooting her twice was incompetent".

Scoff all you like, but cops had to tamper with a piece of badly fragmented bullet (PV/20) recovered by the pathologist during autopsy performed on 7 August 1985, supported by X-ray images and replace it with a whole bullet so that the ballistic expert could conclude in September 1985 that the anshuzt rifle had fired both shots into Sheila's throat! Two bodies reported as found in downstairs kitchen upon entry, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female (from 7.35am, onward), a murder, and a suicide ( by 7.45am), only three bodies found upstairs by 8.10am! It was an impossibility for the second body police to come across inside the farmhouse upstairs if Sheila Caffells body was found on the main bedroom floor where PC Bird (SOCO) photographed it from 10 am, onward! Her body would have been the third body stumbled upon if the firearm officers had entered the main bedroom via the door situated at the top of the main stairs! The second body found could not be described as a suicide in this instance, the first two bodies (Neville's and Junes) could only be described as a murder, and a murder! If the cops didn't enter the main bedroom by that door, but went via the children's bedroom and the box room, Sheila's body would have been found  next to last! In those circumstances, cops would have referred to her death in the following sequence, a murder, (Neville), a murder (Daniel), a murder (Nicholas), a suicide (Sheila), followed by a murder (June Bamber). According to the explanation given in firearm officers statements, cops found Neville Bambers first, then June Bambers body, then Sheila's body, and then the bodies of the two child victims! If the second body found was being referred to as a suicide, that could not apply to the death of June Bamber who had been shot a total of 7 times! The only victim whose death might be described as being a suicide was Sheila Caffells, but with her body on the bedroom floor as claimed, hers could not have been the second body found,it would have been the third body found by 7.45am, cops would have to have said that they were dealing with three bodies, a murder, a murder, and a suicide! The only way the second body could have been spoken in terms of it being a suicide was if Sheila's death supposedly occurred downstairs in the kitchen where Neville Bambers murder was also confirmed by 7.45am! The other three bodies, all murders were found upstairs between 7.45am and 8.10am, five dead in total!

So, scoff all you like, my account is accurate, logical and absolutely true!

[Jane]

Scoff all you like, but cops had to tamper with a piece of badly fragmented bullet (PV/20) recovered by the pathologist during autopsy performed on 7 August 1985, supported by X-ray images and replace it with a whole bullet so that the ballistic expert could conclude in September 1985 that the anshuzt rifle had fired both shots into Sheila's throat! Two bodies reported as found in downstairs kitchen upon entry, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female (from 7.35am, onward), a murder, and a suicide ( by 7.45am), only three bodies found upstairs by 8.10am! It was an impossibility for the second body police to come across inside the farmhouse upstairs if Sheila Caffells body was found on the main bedroom floor where PC Bird (SOCO) photographed it from 10 am, onward! Her body would have been the third body stumbled upon if the firearm officers had entered the main bedroom via the door situated at the top of the main stairs! The second body found could not be described as a suicide in this instance, the first two bodies (Neville's and Junes) could only be described as a murder, and a murder! If the cops didn't enter the main bedroom by that door, but went via the children's bedroom and the box room, Sheila's body would have been found  next to last! In those circumstances, cops would have referred to her death in the following sequence, a murder, (Neville), a murder (Daniel), a murder (Nicholas), a suicide (Sheila), followed by a murder (June Bamber). According to the explanation given in firearm officers statements, cops found Neville Bambers first, then June Bambers body, then Sheila's body, and then the bodies of the two child victims! If the second body found was being referred to as a suicide, that could not apply to the death of June Bamber who had been shot a total of 7 times! The only victim whose death might be described as being a suicide was Sheila Caffells, but with her body on the bedroom floor as claimed, hers could not have been the second body found,it would have been the third body found by 7.45am, cops would have to have said that they were dealing with three bodies, a murder, a murder, and a suicide! The only way the second body could have been spoken in terms of it being a suicide was if Sheila's death supposedly occurred downstairs in the kitchen where Neville Bambers murder was also confirmed by 7.45am! The other three bodies, all murders were found upstairs between 7.45am and 8.10am, five dead in total!

So, scoff all you like, my account is accurate, logical and absolutely true!

I'm fully prepared to accept that your account may be accurate, however, whether it's the truth is another question. You weren't there. You only have the word of "A" person/people who allegedly were there and as we all know, each of us has a different truth. Each of us will swear that our truth is THE truth. You have told us many "truths" as told you by many different people. Are they all THE truth. I'm still at a loss as to WHY all these people who allegedly know THE truth, are still hiding it all these years down the line.

[mike tesko]

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These differences occur because photo number 23 was taken before PC Bird (SOCO) ever set foot inside the farmhouse, it was taken by DC Oakey or DC Henderson during 'informatives' being conducted by senior officers inside the main bedroom between 9am and 10am! This practice of 'informatives' by these senior officers involved in this case, an attempt to cover up the shooting of Sheila downstairs in the kitchen by a firearm officer (as per the officers report, 1612, regarding the shooting incident in the kitchen upon entry)! Yes, these unscrupulous cops were content to present Sheila's death not downstairs in the kitchen, but upstairs in the main bedroom by use of the anshuzt rifle, and not by the police weapon which actually inflicted the first shot! They justified doing this because they were satisfied that Sheila had murdered the other four victims, and arguably deserved to have also died, and to prevent an inquiry into the shooting of her by a police officer upon entry to the kitchen! Once the rifle was brought from one box room window into the main bedroom and eventually placed on her body by the cops, their minds were made up to claim that she had shot herself with the anshuzt rifle! They played down the suggestion that Sheila had been shot twice claiming she had only been shot once, which is bizarre because from 9.13am onward Sheila had two bullet wounds to her throat! The anshuzt rifle had only fired one of these two shots, the bullet which killed her off (exhibit PV/19)! The case was to be processed through the Coroner's Court system, not the criminal court system! But for the tenacity of the relatives the cover up would never become exposed, and the case was eventually processed via the criminal court system with Jeremy Bamber made the chief suspect! The rest is history! Any way, back to the items that have vanished in-between photographs taken by the Oakey/ Henderson SOC mob, and the Cook/ Bird SOC mob! Things were moved about during 'informatives' and by the time cops staged Sheila's death scene on the main bedroom floor, and PC Bird (SOCO) started to take photographs from 10 am, onward, the main bedroom scenario had become transformed into a stage managed death scene, where cops sought to promote Sheila's death as a suicide! This is what did happen, and this is what cops are responsible for doing! They know full well that Jeremy Bamber did not shoot his sister dead, either downstairs in the kitchen, or upstairs in the main bedroom! All these crooked cops are bothered about is trying to make themselves look good, and they refuse to admit what they have done, in fact they have gone out of their way to place obstacles in the way of anybody trying to reconstruct what really did happen to Sheila Caffell and how she actually lost her life after cops were inside the farmhouse! There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Sheila was already dead before the firearm officers entered the farmhouse. How could she have been dead before police went into the farmhouse, her body on the bedroom floor in possession of a rifle which was seen resting against another first floor window from 7.15am, onward? How could that rifle be in two places at one and the same time? It couldn't have been, and it wasn't! Cops and nobody else staged Sheila's death on the main bedroom floor, they brought the anshuzt rifle to her body in the main bedroom from the box room and they staged her supposed suicide! It's not every day cops would have gone to such lengths, but in this instance they did! They did not promote her death and stage her death as a suicide lightly! They did it to protect themselves from investigation into all the mistakes that were made during the seige, and the fact that they were negligent and caused the death of Sheila..

[mike tesko]

I'm fully prepared to accept that your account may be accurate, however, whether it's the truth is another question. You weren't there. You only have the word of "A" person/people who allegedly were there and as we all know, each of us has a different truth. Each of us will swear that our truth is THE truth. You have told us many "truths" as told you by many different people. Are they all THE truth. I'm still at a loss as to WHY all these people who allegedly know THE truth, are still hiding it all these years down the line.

You need to speak to the families and friends of the Hillsborough tragedy cover up, from 28 years ago - all the cops involved did not break their necks and tell the truth about what was done, how it was done, or why it was done! Same underlying principles apply here! Cops are criminals in uniform and their cousins in crime the CPS can never be prosecuted for telling lies, fabricating evidence, etc, etc, etc. There is clear evidence that Sheila was reported killed downstairs in the kitchen, her death being spoken of in terms of it being a suicide by 7.45am, cops have spoken of seeing her body on top of the bed with only a single shot to the throat and the rifle on the bed in-between the bodies of June and Sheila! Only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am, all five bodies accounted for by this stage. It's true I wasn't inside whf on the morning of the cover up surrounding the shootings of Sheila once downstairs in the kitchen, and secondly upstairs on the main bedroom floor but I have spoken personally with people who were there who have confirmed what literally took place, and I have seen photographic evidence of Sheila's body on top of the bed, minus the gun and with only a single shot to the throat! The cops have fabricated a dishonest case against Jeremy Bamber, rather than face the music for the mistakes and wrong doings of themselves. They don't mind blaming anybody, or them getting convicted and falsely imprisoned, they don't care just so long as they come out of it (the cops) smelling of roses! Ask the families and friends of the Hillsboro' 96 about how it feels for the cops and their counterparts to falsify the contents of witness statements and blame Liverpool Supporters for the tragedy! You ask them what their truth is!

[mike tesko]

You need to speak to the families and friends of the Hillsborough tragedy cover up, from 28 years ago - all the cops involved did not break their necks and tell the truth about what was done, how it was done, or why it was done! Same underlying principles apply here! Cops are criminals in uniform and their cousins in crime the CPS can never be prosecuted for telling lies, fabricating evidence, etc, etc, etc. There is clear evidence that Sheila was reported killed downstairs in the kitchen, her death being spoken of in terms of it being a suicide by 7.45am, cops have spoken of seeing her body on top of the bed with only a single shot to the throat and the rifle on the bed in-between the bodies of June and Sheila! Only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am, all five bodies accounted for by this stage. It's true I wasn't inside whf on the morning of the cover up surrounding the shootings of Sheila once downstairs in the kitchen, and secondly upstairs on the main bedroom floor but I have spoken personally with people who were there who have confirmed what literally took place, and I have seen photographic evidence of Sheila's body on top of the bed, minus the gun and with only a single shot to the throat! The cops have fabricated a dishonest case against Jeremy Bamber, rather than face the music for the mistakes and wrong doings of themselves. They don't mind blaming anybody, or them getting convicted and falsely imprisoned, they don't care just so long as they come out of it (the cops) smelling of roses! Ask the families and friends of the Hillsboro' 96 about how it feels for the cops and their counterparts to falsify the contents of witness statements and blame Liverpool Supporters for the tragedy! You ask them what their truth is!

The really sad thing is, even when cops fabricate a case against somebody or other, they still can't solve it, without them eventually becoming exposed! They are the scum of the earth to victims like me, but public heroes to many members of the public who are brainwashed by the authorities into believing and accepting any bullshit they are told by corrupt cops and CPS...

[mike tesko]

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Jeremy Bamber did not shoot dead his sister, either in the kitchen when cops entered, or upstairs on the main bedroom floor! This is my truth, and its the absolute truth! Cops know it's the truth, CPS know it's the truth! The evidence proving all of this is there in the case file and photographs, some already disclosed, some dishonestly withheld under the pretense of pii..

But the truth will one day emerge, the authorities are dragging their feet, hoping that every last one of those involved in this cover up die, so that they can't be prosecuted! One by one, the perpetrators are dying off so it's getting closer to the day this miscarriage of justice gets rectified!Bamber himself might even die in custody before then, but just like in Derek Bentley's case, I believe that Jeremy will be exonerated postumously..

[Steve_uk]

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Jeremy Bamber did not shoot dead his sister, either in the kitchen when cops entered, or upstairs on the main bedroom floor! This is my truth, and its the absolute truth! Cops know it's the truth, CPS know it's the truth! The evidence proving all of this is there in the case file and photographs, some already disclosed, some dishonestly withheld under the pretense of pii..

But the truth will one day emerge, the authorities are dragging their feet, hoping that every last one of those involved in this cover up die, so that they can't be prosecuted! One by one, the perpetrators are dying off so it's getting closer to the day this miscarriage of justice gets rectified!Bamber himself might even die in custody before then, but just like in Derek Bentley's case, I believe that Jeremy will be exonerated postumously..

I thought you were privy to information that Bamber was about to be hanged..

[mike tesko]

I thought you were privy to information that Bamber was about to be hanged..

I'm just saying that the extent of the corruption involved in the case which has already dragged on for nigh on 32 years, might remain concealed until either all those who were directly responsible for the cover up surrounding Sheila's death in the main bedroom  die, and or until after Jeremy's own death before the authorities own up to the truth in this matter!

[Jan]

High way do you think the door opens in the picture lookout?

[Jan]

Are you assuming the object by the second arrow is a handle ?

[lookout]

It looks as though it opens to the left of the picture.