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Offline lookout

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #105 on: July 04, 2017, 09:00:PM »
Who made the prints on her nightdress if her hands were clean ?

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #106 on: July 04, 2017, 09:06:PM »
There have been posts on here before that actually said it is an easy rifle to fire and to be fair we can not see all her nails so we only have reports that say they were not damaged . It also says her hands were clean and there is no way that is true is it? Perhaps they were by the time the autopsy happened?
If Sheila's nails were damaged this would have confirmed the boss's suspicions that Sheila was the killer so there would be no need to conceal.

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #107 on: July 04, 2017, 09:09:PM »
I might be back for a fleeting few visits. My belief has never changed . Unfortunately family circumstances forced me to take a few steps back for a while .

I am sorry you have had family problems Jan. I have always known how you felt about the case
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #108 on: July 04, 2017, 09:14:PM »
I don't believe she was reasoned with at the barrel of a gun. She had no idea what was happening for those few seconds she was dragged across the corridor into the master bedroom, stumbled over June, told to lie down whereupon Jeremy precipitously fired the first report, hence the mistake.

I know one thing, there is not a mother living who would just lie down on command if her children had been killed or were in danger

Steve you cannot possible get in the mind of a mother in that situation
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #109 on: July 04, 2017, 09:17:PM »
Not sure what Jan's form of support is going to be. If she stays.

Charging around the forum disputing over 200 pieces of published evidence is a bit of a waste of time. It's been published & that can't change.

David said all the evidence which convicted Bamber is due to 'forgery & perjury'. This approach is best one for supporters. It just needs to be worked out how this huge undertaking was organised.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #110 on: July 04, 2017, 09:19:PM »
I know one thing, there is not a mother living who would just lie down on command if her children had been killed or were in danger

Steve you cannot possible get in the mind of a mother in that situation
Jackie she was sick. If you don't get this about Sheila you will never understand the case.

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #111 on: July 04, 2017, 09:25:PM »
Not sure what Jan's form of support is going to be. If she stays.

Charging around the forum disputing over 200 pieces of published evidence is a bit of a waste of time. It's been published & that can't change.

David said all the evidence which convicted Bamber is due to 'forgery & perjury'. This approach is best one for supporters. It just needs to be worked out how this huge undertaking was organised.

Don't worry your head Adam, Jan will probably put you on ignore if she has limited time to spend on the forum
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #112 on: July 04, 2017, 09:29:PM »
Not sure what Jan's form of support is going to be. If she stays.

Charging around the forum disputing over 200 pieces of published evidence is a bit of a waste of time. It's been published & that can't change.

David said all the evidence which convicted Bamber is due to 'forgery & perjury'. This approach is best one for supporters. It just needs to be worked out how this huge undertaking was organised.

It is not for you to say what is best for supporters. We are all individuals .

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #113 on: July 04, 2017, 09:30:PM »
Jackie she was sick. If you don't get this about Sheila you will never understand the case.

I know exactly how ill Sheila was a lot more than you and that's why this tragedy happened

One day this case will help mental health charities promote how someone can get help when in a desperate situation like Sheila
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #114 on: July 04, 2017, 09:32:PM »
Not sure what Jan's form of support is going to be. If she stays.

Charging around the forum disputing over 200 pieces of published evidence is a bit of a waste of time. It's been published & that can't change.

David said all the evidence which convicted Bamber is due to 'forgery & perjury'. This approach is best one for supporters. It just needs to be worked out how this huge undertaking was organised.

I thought you might have missed my posts? And if I am wasting my time you certainly are because you Don't even have questions to ask.

Why do you think the evidence of photos of Sheila's hands is the opposite of what was presented to the jury?
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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #115 on: July 04, 2017, 09:43:PM »
I thought you might have missed my posts? And if I am wasting my time you certainly are because you Don't even have questions to ask.

Why do you think the evidence of photos of Sheila's hands is the opposite of what was presented to the jury?
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And that's exactly why you have been so missed x
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #116 on: July 04, 2017, 09:44:PM »
I thought you might have missed my posts? And if I am wasting my time you certainly are because you Don't even have questions to ask.

Why do you think the evidence of photos of Sheila's hands is the opposite of what was presented to the jury?
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Jan sadly Adam only sees what suits him nobody can say Sheila's hands were clean and believe it.

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #117 on: July 04, 2017, 09:46:PM »
And that's exactly why you have been so missed x

Jackie
I agree with you Jan is a great poster and the forum has really missed her.

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #118 on: July 04, 2017, 10:17:PM »
Jackie
I agree with you Jan is a great poster and the forum has really missed her.
Susan as I have said before there are lots of people read all updates on this forum but don't post for obvious reasons
I am just so happy to be reading Jans posts again
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: DCI 621 Stuart Smith Specsavers Challenge
« Reply #119 on: July 04, 2017, 10:32:PM »
I can't even see any scrapes, I think you're all imagining it.

If the image had been put up 2014 before you turned guilty, I don't think you would have had any difficulty seeing the scrapes or their source nail gouges.  But you have boxed your-self in now, on the opposition benches with the hardline guilters.  So you  have to try and bluff it out and play 🙈