Last chance: Questions on the relatives fabricating the silencer:

[Adam]

Had the relatives ever been in trouble with the law before ?

Did the relatives know there was no other evidence which showed Sheila was the killer.

Did the relatives know about back splatter.

Did the relatives know there was no back splatter already on the rifle nozzle.

Did the relatives know that one of Sheila's shots was a contact shot.

Did the relatives know the rifle with the silencer on was too long for Sheila to shoot herself.

Did the relatives know where to get Sheila's blood.

If unable to get Sheila's blood, did the relatives know what blood type she was.

Did the relatives know who in the family had Sheila's blood type.

Did the relatives know how to expertly put Sheila's blood/blood type into the silencer. Creating the back splatter effect.

Did the relatives know when WHF was empty so they could go back and scratch the aga.

Did the relatives know how to scratch the aga to suggest a kitchen fight.

Did the relatives know that the crime scene photos did not already include pictures of the aga without the scratch's. 

Did the relatives know where to get a strand of Nevill's hair.

Did the relatives know the risks in attempting this frame and the punishment if found.

Did the relatives know that each other could be completely trusted in a big crime committe

[notsure]

Had the relatives ever been in trouble with the law before ? Don't know
Do you?

Did the relatives know there was no other evidence which showed Sheila was the killer. None of us can answer that as we haven't seen all the evidence. And no I'm not talking about pii

Did the relatives know about back splatter. The silencer wasn't used

Did the relatives know there was no back splatter already on the rifle nozzle. Ditto

Did the relatives know that one of Sheila's shots was a contact shot. Who blooming knows the police seem to have told them a lot, you can't prove they didn't 

Did the relatives know the rifle with the silencer on was too long for Sheila to shoot herself. Ditto regarding silence

Did the relatives know where to get Sheila's blood. It isn't Shielas blood imo


If unable to get Sheila's blood, did the relatives know what blood type she was. Ditto

Did the relatives know who in the family had Sheila's blood type. Ditto

Did the relatives know how to expertly put Sheila's blood/blood type into the silencer. Creating the back splatter effect. Ditto

Did the relatives know when WHF was empty so they could go back and scratch the aga. They did
That on the assumption the paint would match up

Did the relatives know how to scratch the aga to suggest a kitchen fight. I don't think
They needed to do that anyway

Did the relatives know that the crime scene photos did not already include pictures of the aga without the scratch's.  They weren't there originally and probably didn't have think the police would have taken photos of the surround anyway

Did the relatives know where to get a strand of Nevill's hair. I expect off his comb or hairbrush would have done the tricky

Did the relatives know the risks in attempting this frame and the punishment if found. I think they truly believed he had done it and were prepared to take the risk of helping it along

Did the relatives know that each other could be completely trusted in a big crime committe of course the could, they were family jb wasn't in their eyes

[notsure]

Working from phone and on lunch so spelling a bit naff!

[Jane]

Working from phone and on lunch so spelling a bit naff!

Er! What exactly were you wanting to say, Notsure. All you've done is quote Adam's post and apologize for your spelling

[susan]

Hi notsure
I was just about to answer Adam's questionnaire when I realised I was going to answer exactly the same as you.  Do hope Adam lets me share with you and does not make me do it all again

[notsure]

Haha susan.


Jane I didn't type in a different colour in reply so you probably missed my

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[Jane]

Haha susan.


Jane I didn't type in a different colour in reply so you probably missed my

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Have just gone back for another look, Notsure. You're right. It's the same colour and has become part of the original quote.

[Zoso]

Haha susan.


Jane I didn't type in a different colour in reply so you probably missed my

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I've sorted out your post for you 

[Jane]

I've sorted out your post for you 

Thanks for that, Mystic One

[Adam]

Thank you Notsure.

Well all the evidence shows Sheila did not commit the massacre. At the time this evidence had not been processed. The relatives would have been jumping the gun somewhat attempting to fabricate the silencer without knowing anything. 

Unfortunately it was Sheila's blood. My question is did they have access to it. My view is the relatives did not have access to it. There is also no way they would know what Sheila's blood type was.

Don't know how saying "the silencer wasn't used" answers the questions about back splatter, the rifle lenght & the relatives expertly inserting blood. The evidence says the silencer was used. That will never change. The questions are asking if the relatives were able to fabricate the silencer.

It seems you are saying the relatives were prepared to take the risk that the crime scene photos did not include the aga. That was a big risk. If they already had Sheila's blood they didn't need to take it.

[Adam]

The replies received on both forums clearly shows that the relatives & Stan Jones could not work independently of each other.

Stan Jones would need the relatives to lie in their WS's and say they found the silencer with hair, paint & blood in.

The relatives would need Stan Jones to get Sheila's blood & crime scene information.

It's very surprising that law abiding citizens and a policeman with no previous corruption history would both suddenly become so devious. Especially as all the other evidence being processed was showing Sheila did not commit the massacre.

[Roch]

I've sorted out your post for you 

I used to like rectifying other people's posts. 

[Adam]

There is another option to the relatives and Stan Jones working together to frame Bamber.

That is that the relatives found the silencer with blood & paint in, and passed it to Stan Jones. It was then passed for testing. Unlikely I know.

[David1819]

Thank you Notsure.

Well all the evidence shows Sheila did not commit the massacre. At the time this evidence had not been processed. The relatives would have been jumping the gun somewhat attempting to fabricate the silencer without knowing anything. 

Unfortunately it was Sheila's blood. My question is did they have access to it. My view is the relatives did not have access to it. There is also no way they would know what Sheila's blood type was.

You have been shown evidence that the relatives had access to her blood. I provided you the transcript.

The police also had access to Sheila's blood.

-PV/12
-PV/13
-PV/16

Were all liquid samples of Sheila's blood that were kept in the police evidence fridge.

[Adam]

You have been shown evidence that the relatives had access to her blood. I provided you the transcript.

The police also had access to Sheila's blood.

-PV/12
-PV/13
-PV/16

Were all liquid samples of Sheila's blood that were kept in the police evidence fridge.

What evidence that the relatives had access to Sheila's blood ?

Well sending me lots of PV's does not mean the police had stored Sheila's blood.

Not sure why the police would store it. But it is more likely the police would have Sheila's blood than the relatives. Which is why I said it had to be a joint effort. Providing the police had Sheila's blood in a fridge. Was it next to the Semi skimmed milk ?