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Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« on: May 20, 2017, 10:27:AM »
The suggestion of a hit man has often been brought up. Most recently yesterday by Sherlock. Ditto random stranger.

Mike has suggested it was a hit man team that raided WHF similar to how the SAS would. 

Bamber's former lawyer suggested there is a connection between Nevill & his other war comrades who have also died.

There has also been suggestions of a random stranger committing the massacre & walking away from WHF.

All this is more plausible than Sheila being the killer as the evidence shows she wasn't. However the hit man/random stranger could have been a woman.

Bamber told the police several weeks after the massacre that Nevill may have said "She" & not "Sheila" in the phone call. Cynics may say he only said this after the police brought up Sheila's two shots. However the police questioning him may have jogged his memory.

Sherlock has also suggested both RB or AE could have committed the massacre. Which again means it could have been a woman.

If it was a woman, it sort of rules out Mike's theory of it being a hit man team. Although still possible the team was all women.

Not sure why Nevill would phone Bamber if a hit woman/random stranger was trying to kill him & his family. It is also surprising that Nevill would have time to do this.

A hit woman/random stranger also rules out Nevill ringing the police. As all the police logs all refer to Sheila.

Do other people believe the the hit person/random stranger could have been a woman ?
« Last Edit: May 20, 2017, 10:48:AM by Adam »
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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 11:39:AM »
It was a woman alright,but no stranger and no hired hitman/woman.

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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 12:04:PM »
It was a woman alright,but no stranger and no hired hitman/woman.

Nah!
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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 12:13:PM »
It was a woman alright,but no stranger and no hired hitman/woman.

As you clearly appear to be insinuating June's hand in the massacre, perhaps you could outline how you think June shot Sheila and left the gun in her hands after Sheila had put a bullet in June's forehead. It's not enough to say so and so was responsible without having something to back it up. Simply wanting it to be a certain way doesn't make it so.

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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2017, 12:57:PM »
As you clearly appear to be insinuating June's hand in the massacre, perhaps you could outline how you think June shot Sheila and left the gun in her hands after Sheila had put a bullet in June's forehead. It's not enough to say so and so was responsible without having something to back it up. Simply wanting it to be a certain way doesn't make it so.





I was actually referring to Sheila.

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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2017, 01:17:PM »




I was actually referring to Sheila.

I think it's already been discussed how impossible would have been a 'shoot out' between them.

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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2017, 02:25:PM »
I think it's already been discussed how impossible would have been a 'shoot out' between them.






I was referring to Sheila.

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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 07:57:PM »
It was a woman alright,but no stranger and no hired hitman/woman.

Do you think Bamber was mistaken when he told the police Nevill may have said "She" rather than "Sheila" on the phone ?
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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2017, 08:26:AM »
The other option is Bamber agreed when the police suggested Sheila could not have shot herself twice. Because he knew he was the one who shot her twice.

Therefore said to the police Nevill may have said "She" rather than "Sheila" & that Crispy may have fired the second shot.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2017, 09:06:AM by Adam »
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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2017, 08:36:AM »
Anyway the options suggested by other posters if Nevill did say "She" rather than "Sheila is -

AE

A hit woman.

A hit woman team.

A female random stranger.

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Bamber himself has never repeated in public that Nevill may have said "She". I suspect when the police interviewed him he really believed Sheila could not have shot herself twice. Partly  because the police were telling him this & partly because he knew he had shot her twice.

So he suggested it was an unknown woman who had 'gone crazy with the gun'. As well as suggest Crispy fired the second shot.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2017, 08:37:AM by Adam »
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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2017, 11:14:AM »
Anyway the options suggested by other posters if Nevill did say "She" rather than "Sheila is -

AE

A hit woman.

A hit woman team.

A female random stranger.

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Bamber himself has never repeated in public that Nevill may have said "She". I suspect when the police interviewed him he really believed Sheila could not have shot herself twice. Partly  because the police were telling him this & partly because he knew he had shot her twice.

So he suggested it was an unknown woman who had 'gone crazy with the gun'. As well as suggest Crispy fired the second shot.

i think David Boutflour thinks Jeremy is guilty ...
I think David Boutflour planted the silencer ...
I think at least one other relative was involved with planting the silencer ...

Was that other relative Anne Eaton ?
To me the answer is more than 50% chance it was ...
If she planted the silencer was she the killer ?

She ripped wall paper off the wall at the farm in a rage - apparently ...
very unusual behaviour if you ask me ...
She moved in the farm with her own children despite the murders ...
very unusual behaviour if you ask me ...
JM's "confession" appears to be based on AE's imperfect impression of the facts at the time ...
very unusual behaviour if you ask me ...

Anne Eaton, David Boutflour and Anthony Pargeter shared the money at the end of the day did they not ?
I wouldn't rule out AE alone or AE + AP as a two killer scenario ...

DB gets roped in to help plant the silencer ...
JM gets induced to "confess" and told by AE what to say in her "confession" ...
Who knows what RB knew / thought or what his role was - other than to mislead the jury ...

If innocent then Jeremy's opinions become credible ...

He believed :

RB was behind the planting of the silencer ...
AP could well have been the killer ...

If he is correct what exactly was AE's precise role ?
Interesting question Adam ...






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Re: Was the hit man/random stranger a woman ?
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2017, 12:31:PM »
i think David Boutflour thinks Jeremy is guilty ...
I think David Boutflour planted the silencer ...
I think at least one other relative was involved with planting the silencer ...

Was that other relative Anne Eaton ?
To me the answer is more than 50% chance it was ...
If she planted the silencer was she the killer ?

She ripped wall paper off the wall at the farm in a rage - apparently ...
very unusual behaviour if you ask me ...
She moved in the farm with her own children despite the murders ...
very unusual behaviour if you ask me ...
JM's "confession" appears to be based on AE's imperfect impression of the facts at the time ...
very unusual behaviour if you ask me ...

Anne Eaton, David Boutflour and Anthony Pargeter shared the money at the end of the day did they not ?
I wouldn't rule out AE alone or AE + AP as a two killer scenario ...

DB gets roped in to help plant the silencer ...
JM gets induced to "confess" and told by AE what to say in her "confession" ...
Who knows what RB knew / thought or what his role was - other than to mislead the jury ...

If innocent then Jeremy's opinions become credible ...

He believed :

RB was behind the planting of the silencer ...
AP could well have been the killer ...

If he is correct what exactly was AE's precise role ?
Interesting question Adam ...

Great  you believe the relatives fabricated the silencer.

Can you answer my questions on the relatives fabricating the silencer. Thread created today.
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