Shell Casing Ejection Theory

[David1819]

I have a theory about how the shell casings ended up in the main bedroom, If Nevill was shot on the stairs. Whereby three casings bounce off the wall while a single spent case gets passed the wall and onto the landing.

Since I cannot attach video in the forum I have uploaded it here.

https://expirebox.com/download/810f54db1bd496d0a073494610263da0.html

I would like to put this theory to the test. But I cannot see that happening any time soon.

[lookout]

Were those casings ever fingerprinted ?

[guest2181]

I have a theory about how the shell casings ended up in the main bedroom, If Nevill was shot on the stairs. Whereby three casings bounce off the wall while a single spent case gets passed the wall and onto the landing.

Since I cannot attach video in the forum I have uploaded it here.

https://expirebox.com/download/810f54db1bd496d0a073494610263da0.html

I would like to put this theory to the test. But I cannot see that happening any time soon.

I haven't watched your video but I presume the theory is the same as we have discussed previously.

A few problems were identified.

1.
It's been stated that the cartridges travel about 4 feet when ejected, or could bounce on a hard floor another couple of feet, making 6 feet in total.
Your travel distances appear to be much greater, plus the floor was carpeted.

2.
You seem to have bullet casings becoming ethereal and magically passing through the door leaf to their final resting place.

3.
The distances that the shots were fired from, given by the pathologist, appears at odds with your theory.


Obviously you want your theory to fit your conclusion, I get that.

It seems more likely that the shooter was in the bedroom with Neville jumping out of bed, running past the shooter and downstairs, receiving shots just before or during his flight.
It seems more plausible than your convoluted 'Ricochet Theory'.

[guest2181]

I haven't watched your video but I presume the theory is the same as we have discussed previously.

A few problems were identified.

1.
It's been stated that the cartridges travel about 4 feet when ejected, or could bounce on a hard floor another couple of feet, making 6 feet in total.
Your travel distances appear to be much greater, plus the floor was carpeted.

2.
You seem to have bullet casings becoming ethereal and magically passing through the door leaf to their final resting place.

3.
The distances that the shots were fired from, given by the pathologist, appears at odds with your theory.


Obviously you want your theory to fit your conclusion, I get that.

It seems more likely that the shooter was in the bedroom with Neville jumping out of bed, running past the shooter and downstairs, receiving shots just before or during his flight.
It seems more plausible than your convoluted 'Ricochet Theory'.

Probably somewhere as previously identified by 'experts'.
The hatched area.

[lookout]

His blood was only found at the bottom of the stairs,on the wallpaper,which would have appeared that he'd been trying to make his way up to the bedroom ?

[Caroline]

His blood was only found at the bottom of the stairs,on the wallpaper,which would have appeared that he'd been trying to make his way up to the bedroom ?

Or down to the kitchen.

[guest2181]

His blood was only found at the bottom of the stairs,on the wallpaper,which would have appeared that he'd been trying to make his way up to the bedroom ?

Fleeing FROM the bedroom, after being shot IN the bedroom.

[Adam]

Perhaps Nevill was shot in the bedroom, as June was. Rather than casings bouncing off walls.

I thought the casings went forward 6feet. That must explain the casings bouncing off walls. Or do the casings go sideways ? You have posted conflicting information on this.

[Adam]

64. In respect of the eight shots into Nevill Bamber's body, the six to his head and face were fired when the rifle was within a few inches of the skin. The remaining injuries to the arm were caused when the gun was at least two feet from the body.


Not sure how Nevill could be shot in the face on the stairs from a few inches away & the casings still remain in the bedroom.

[Adam]

Unless the casings are now travelling 6 feet backwards.

[Roch]

Some people think all of Nevill's shots were downstairs.  I'm not clued up on the casings etc. - so I couldn't comment either way.

[Adam]

Some people think all of Nevill's shots were downstairs.  I'm not clued up on the casings etc. - so I couldn't comment either way.

60. Found in or just outside the bedroom were thirteen cartridge cases. Seven would account for the shots into June Bamber, two for the wounds suffered by Sheila Caffell, leaving four cartridge cases that had been fired at Nevill Bamber.

Three further cartridge cases were found in the kitchen, with a further case on the stairs leading up from the kitchen.

If one accepts that the four shots to the head which would have immobilised and killed Nevill Bamber were fired in the kitchen where his body was recovered, it would follow that he had received the less serious injuries upstairs in the bedroom and was then able to make his way downstairs where he was subsequently killed

[susan]

60. Found in or just outside the bedroom were thirteen cartridge cases. Seven would account for the shots into June Bamber, two for the wounds suffered by Sheila Caffell, leaving four cartridge cases that had been fired at Nevill Bamber.

Three further cartridge cases were found in the kitchen, with a further case on the stairs leading up from the kitchen.

If one accepts that the four shots to the head which would have immobilised and killed Nevill Bamber were fired in the kitchen where his body was recovered, it would follow that he had received the less serious injuries upstairs in the bedroom and was then able to make his way downstairs where he was subsequently killed

Adam that sounds right to me maybe I will have to rethink my scenario

[Adam]

Adam that sounds right to me maybe I will have to rethink my scenario

It's copied from the 2002 appeal.

[Roch]

It's copied from the 2002 appeal.

I nearly praised you for giving me a reasonable answer.