How Many People Knew The Twins

[lookout]

I think they will try and clone me first before Burial, they won't want to waste such talent.

That's what I say as well.

[JackiePreece]

I'm perfectly certain, in part because I'd be reluctant to believe that the man "I was deeply in love with. I'd hoped we'd get married" was capable of such a crime. I feel sure, initially, I'd have tried to put it all down to coincidence.

Your posts are funny, I take that was a joke
A coincidence 3 people and 2 children dead

Funny she was so sure in her police interviews

[JackiePreece]

Yes I am certainly scraping the bottom of the barrel, each time I reply to one of your ramblings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDQGNOAnfVc 

It is funny
You and Jane are the funny double act of the forum

[Jane]

They are named when in the mortuary,which is what this is all about re. identification, ?-------not always at the actual scene of the crime.

How CAN they be named if they haven't been identified?

[Jane]

Your posts are funny, I take that was a joke
A coincidence 3 people and 2 children dead

Funny she was so sure in her police interviews

I think you're missing the point. You appear to be suggesting that she SHOULD have know he did it. I'm saying she only ever knew what he told her he was planning to do and when it happened, hoped, like hell, it hadn't been him. It was one month on by the time she became certain.

[notsure]

I tend to agree with you Roch, if we take the view that Julie didn't in any way suspect that JB was involved at the time of her identifying the boys, staying at Colin's, accompanying him to the funeral and various getaways we could believe that by the time she went to the police she may have been troubled by insinuation and murmerings as you suggest.  Adding to this her memories of comments and threats by Jeremy about his family over the time she had known him may have caused some kind of realisation to take root in her mind until it became too strong and she couldn't ignore it any more therefore she shared it with friends and rightly they persuaded her to go and speak to the police.

She would have been a gift to the police who could easily have worked on her convincing her and reinforcing her fears that he had done it, and explaining that they needed her to be a witness for them to ensure he was locked up for good. Her past criminal behaviour gave them an added lever to 'persuade' her of his guilt and her need to point the finger at him.

If JM knew JB was responsible from the start as is the official claim she would have to have been a young woman without any moral compass at all or as you say 'as cold as ice' to behave the way she did and although her behaviour before the crime was very questionable since the trial she does seem to have grown up, had a good career and lead a decent life without any sign of criminality etc.

It's good to look at things from different angles sometimes as there are many possibilities and as far as we know any one of them or none of them may be the truth.

great post maggie , good to see an actual debate.

[susan]

great post maggie , good to see an actual debate.

Hi notsure I agree that is a great post Maggie has just made.

[Caroline]

It is funny
You and Jane are the funny double act of the forum

And you're a fair few brain cells short for being an idiot.

[Jane]

It is funny
You and Jane are the funny double act of the forum

I guess that's as opposed to you being a stand up comedienne?

[lookout]

How CAN they be named if they haven't been identified?

Are you being funny ? I've already explained. They were already identified in the mortuary !! Julie will have been shown where they were,so how do you think the mortician knew who they were if they hadn't been identified ??

[Jane]

Are you being funny ? I've already explained. They were already identified in the mortuary !! Julie will have been shown where they were,so how do you think the mortician knew who they were if they hadn't been identified ??

Please explain how the mortician knew who they were when Julie was the only one who could tell them apart, AND if they'd already been identified, WHY did Julie have to go through that ordeal?

[Caroline]

Are you being funny ? I've already explained. They were already identified in the mortuary !! Julie will have been shown where they were,so how do you think the mortician knew who they were if they hadn't been identified ??

Ha, ha!!!!!! He knew the were the twins from WHF, He probably knew their names were Daniel and Nicholas - what he didn't know was WHICH ONE WAS WHICH so that is why Julie was required to make a formal ID.

[lookout]

Please explain how the mortician knew who they were when Julie was the only one who could tell them apart, AND if they'd already been identified, WHY did Julie have to go through that ordeal?

 Because of the nature of their deaths ( murder ) the police would have been in attendance to hand over names and details of the deceased. The police would have told the person in charge about the names of the twins and sadly because one had 5 bullets and the other 3,there wouldn't have been any mix up who was who.
As for identification,it has to be done by a family member to verify that it's the family in question.
Who said Julie was the only one who knew them apart ? When clearly,if someone had explained their injuries could have seen for themselves.Julie didn't HAVE TO go through any ordeal--she volunteered !

   

[Caroline]

 Because of the nature of their deaths ( murder ) the police would have been in attendance to hand over names and details of the deceased. The police would have told the person in charge about the names of the twins and sadly because one had 5 bullets and the other 3,there wouldn't have been any mix up who was who.
As for identification,it has to be done by a family member to verify that it's the family in question.
Who said Julie was the only one who knew them apart ? When clearly,if someone had explained their injuries could have seen for themselves.Julie didn't HAVE TO go through any ordeal--she volunteered !

 

NO! They needed to know which twin was which and Julie could tell them apart! Colin didn't want to go because he wanted to remember them how they were in life and Jones stopped Heather from going. Julie didn't leap up and shout 'me, me, me! Pick ME!'  She went because she knew them apart!

[Jane]

 Because of the nature of their deaths ( murder ) the police would have been in attendance to hand over names and details of the deceased. The police would have told the person in charge about the names of the twins and sadly because one had 5 bullets and the other 3,there wouldn't have been any mix up who was who.
As for identification,it has to be done by a family member to verify that it's the family in question.
Who said Julie was the only one who knew them apart ? When clearly,if someone had explained their injuries could have seen for themselves.Julie didn't HAVE TO go through any ordeal--she volunteered !

 

Lookout, you say anything rather than admit you're wrong. Julie was needed to identify the twins because, regardless of what you say, there was no one else who could/was prepared to. The most the mortician could say was that they were twin boys. Ever heard that when you're in a hole you should stop digging.