Reason to believe cops shot Sheila, and how her blood ended up inside Silencer!

[Roch]

If such evidence existed, why has it taken 30 years for someone to reveal it?

Why has it taken any time for any evidence that could undermine the conviction to be revealed?

Why wasn't it known in 85/86 that police recorded they found two bodies downstairs - one female and one male?

Why wasn't it known in 85/86, that concurrent with the above, SOCO were called (before any bodies were located upstairs) and told there was a muder and a suicide?

Why wasn't it known in 85/86, that TFG officers (who were the first to witness the crime scene) raised "serious concerns" regarding discrepancies between what they recalled in Sheila's crime scene and the video of crime scene photographs they were later shown?

How long did it take to become known that Sheila's feet had spots of blood on them?

Just a few examples.

[Adam]

Why has it taken any time for any evidence that could undermine the conviction to be revealed?

Why wasn't it known in 85/86 that police recorded they found two bodies downstairs - one female and one male?

Why wasn't it known in 85/86, that concurrent with the above, SOCO were called (before any bodies were located upstairs) and told there was a muder and a suicide?

Why wasn't it known in 85/86, that TFG officers (who were the first to witness the crime scene) raised "serious concerns" regarding discrepancies between what they recalled in Sheila's crime scene and the video of crime scene photographs they were later shown?

How long did it take to become known that Sheila's feet had spots of blood on them?

Just a few examples.

This isn't much in 32 years. Considering Bamber & his CT have been on the case 24/7 & Bamber has millions of documents in his cell.

It's all hit & hope.

[Roch]

That's why Roch got upset when I responded to his post by asking the reasonable question -  'What Physical Evidence' & just xxxxxx xx x xxxxx.

There is no crime scene physical evidence that shows Sheila is guilty.

Don't say I didn't warn you.  Current forum users are my witness.

[Caroline]

Why has it taken any time for any evidence that could undermine the conviction to be revealed? Nothing has been revealed.

Why wasn't it known in 85/86 that police recorded they found two bodies downstairs - one female and one male? Because they didn't find two bodies downstairs, supporters have simply chosen to ignore the explanation that it was a mistake because it better fits a conspiracy.

Why wasn't it known in 85/86, that concurrent with the above, SOCO were called (before any bodies were located upstairs) and told there was a muder and a suicide? Sorry, don't understand this?

Why wasn't it known in 85/86, that TFG officers (who were the first to witness the crime scene) raised "serious concerns" regarding discrepancies between what they recalled in Sheila's crime scene and the video of crime scene photographs they were later shown? I think I have already answered this in a previous post?

How long did it take to become known that Sheila's feet had spots of blood on them? Why would she not have 'a few' blood spots on her feet? The carpet was covered in blood spots but there is certainly no dirt from the kitchen floor.

Just a few examples.

[Caroline]

Don't say I didn't warn you.  Current forum users are my witness.

Sorry Roch, but we have heard this all before.

[Roch]

Sorry Roch, but we have heard this all before.

No need to apologise - but not from me they havent.

[Caroline]

No need to apologise - but not from me they havent.

No, not from you but I am sure if I were making the same claims, you would be as sceptical. I'm sceptical not because I don't believe that you believe there is compelling evidence, just that I don't think I would find it as compelling. From the points you have raised in recent weeks, whatever it is relates to Sheila being alive inside the farmhouse but ALL of the evidence that I have seen, points to her not being alive.

[Roch]

Nothing has been revealed.

That's a silly comment.

Because they didn't find two bodies downstairs, supporters have simply chosen to ignore the explanation that it was a mistake because it better fits a conspiracy.

That should have been for a jury to decide. Conspiracies exist.

Sorry, don't understand this?

When the two bodies were mistakenly found - they were described as a murder and a suicide (which SOCO allegedly interpreted as meaning a murder and a suicide or a murder or suicide.

Given that the only person in the house who could be expected to commit suicide was Sheila Caffell - a jury should have been informed of these circs.  This was before the bodies were located upstairs.

I think I have already answered this in a previous post?

You answered it, though IMO, not in a manner which satisfactorily explains.

[Roch]

No, not from you but I am sure if I were making the same claims, you would be as sceptical.

Yes I understand what you mean. 

I'm sceptical not because I don't believe that you believe there is compelling evidence, just that I don't think I would find it as compelling. From the points you have raised in recent weeks, whatever it is relates to Sheila being alive inside the farmhouse but ALL of the evidence that I have seen, points to her not being alive.

Again I see your point.  I cant guarantee that you would interpret the evidence as 'compelling'. I suspect though that it would cause you to ruminate a great deal in private.  It doesn't necessarily relate to Sheila being alive at the time of the TFG operation.  The fact that this evidence was covered up makes it all the more compelling (in my opinion).

[Caroline]

Yes I understand what you mean. 

Again I see your point.  I cant guarantee that you would interpret the evidence as 'compelling'. I suspect though that it would cause you to ruminate a great deal in private.  It doesn't necessarily relate to Sheila being alive at the time of the TFG operation.  The fact that this evidence was covered up makes it all the more compelling (in my opinion).

OK, so as compelling as you believe this thing is, it can't be something that proves Jeremy is innocent because if it did, I doubt you would simply suggest I would 'ruminate'. I will ask one last question on this because as you have already indicate, if you can't talk about 'it', there is little point in discussing it. Have you seen this evidence or have you just been told that it exists?

[Roch]

OK, so as compelling as you believe this thing is, it can't be something that proves Jeremy is innocent because if it did, I doubt you would simply suggest I would 'ruminate'. I will ask one last question on this because as you have already indicate, if you can't talk about 'it', there is little point in discussing it. Have you seen this evidence or have you just been told that it exists?

One the first point - I would argue that it is compelling.  My suggestion you would ruminate is based upon your current stance - which is entrenched.

[Caroline]

One the first point - I would argue that it is compelling.  My suggestion you would ruminate is based upon your current stance - which is entrenched.

You would argue that it's compelling because of your current stance - which is also entrenched, only the other way. 

[Roch]

You would argue that it's compelling because of your current stance - which is also entrenched, only the other way. 

Fair comment 

[mike tesko]

(2) - Jeremy Bamber did not Shoot his sister, Sheila Jean Caffell, dead inside the farmhouse

How can he have when she did not get shot until after the anshuzt rifle was placed by Sheila herself at the first floor box room window by 7.15am, which caused the TFG to make it's move toward the farmhouse, to enter it, and bring the ongoing seige to a conclusion!

[mike tesko]

(2) - Jeremy Bamber did not Shoot his sister, Sheila Jean Caffell, dead inside the farmhouse

How can he have when she did not get shot until after the anshuzt rifle was placed by Sheila herself at the first floor box room window by 7.15am, which caused the TFG to make it's move toward the farmhouse, to enter it, and bring the ongoing seige to a conclusion!

If Sheila did not get shot until the TFG entered the farmhouse, how can Jeremy be his sister's killer?