Reason to believe cops shot Sheila, and how her blood ended up inside Silencer!

[lookout]

The gun laying on top of Shiela, all doors locked, jb outside, the bible
Etc etc

I was reading Jean Bouttell's statement this morning saying that when she last saw the family on the Monday,there was nothing to indicate that anything was wrong with any of the family members,including Sheila who'd appeared the same as she'd always been.
Mrs B went on to say that there were 4 Bibles and it was June who used to write notes and put them inside pages of the Bibles and also leave notes around the farmhouse which were usually Psalms or Scriptures or passages from certain parts of the Bible. The twins had prayer books.

[Jane]

I was reading Jean Bouttell's statement this morning saying that when she last saw the family on the Monday,there was nothing to indicate that anything was wrong with any of the family members,including Sheila who'd appeared the same as she'd always been.
Mrs B went on to say that there were 4 Bibles and it was June who used to write notes and put them inside pages of the Bibles and also leave notes around the farmhouse which were usually Psalms or Scriptures or passages from certain parts of the Bible. The twins had prayer books.

"Appeared the same as she'd always been" is a little ambiguous, don't you think? We can have no idea what she means by it without knowing how she defines what Sheila had "always been".

[lookout]

"Appeared the same as she'd always been" is a little ambiguous, don't you think? We can have no idea what she means by it without knowing how she defines what Sheila had "always been".

Normal. What else ?

[JackiePreece]

Then why wasn't blood on the first three baffles? I see you say it is a POSSIBILITY of other blood.
WHY would Jeremy wipe the  rifle, he had already told the cops he handled the gun the night before.
Anyway according to the guilters he was wearing a wet suit and gloves,
It wasn't a matter of police fingerprints on the weapon, it was more to do with how many different police prints there were. It would show it was handled by multiple police.

Brilliant post as usual buddy

[Jane]

Normal. What else ?

Would that be your own definition of what constitutes normal or Jean B's of what passed as being normal for Sheila?

[JackiePreece]

"Appeared the same as she'd always been" is a little ambiguous, don't you think? We can have no idea what she means by it without knowing how she defines what Sheila had "always been".

But like we cannot know what Granny Speakman thought of Jeremy even though Miss Marple AKA Ann Eaton tried to mislead people about this relationship

[Caroline]

I can see where you're coming from - but there was physical evidence at the scene that clearly indicated Sheila Caffell had been the murderer (or killer due to diminished responsibility / mental incapacity - whatever the correct term would have been in 1985). 

Even if you remove all of the scenarios, claims, theories about Sheila still being alive concurrent with TFG operation (which of course if true, would be the number one reason why police knew Sheila was culpable), there was still physical evidence at the scene anyway. 

Sorry if this is not what you and others want to read or think about.  I cannot help that. 

Everything you or others have come to believe about this case, originally stems from lies which needed to be committed and evidence which needed to be concealed - otherwise - the case would have been thrown out of court on the first day - if it ever even reached such an advanced stage in proceedings.

Unless you say what that evidence is, then it's only words.

I only want the truth Roch - whatever that is.

I don't believe my position stems from lies, although I have read quite a few here in the past. I believe nothing without evidence and so far, you haven't posted any.

[Jane]

But like we cannot know what Granny Speakman thought of Jeremy even though Miss Marple AKA Ann Eaton tried to mislead people about this relationship

For once, you have a valid point. How others tell us they experience someone as being doesn't always give  a correct indication of who the person is. Going by that, we only have your word for it that Ann tried to mislead. We now have to make a decision about whose word we take. Should it be Ann's who shared Granny S with Jeremy, OR should it be yours, bearing in mind you'd probably do or say anything which would discredit Ann. Hmm. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place here.

[Caroline]

Evidence that will see you and all your troll pals elsewhere end up with egg over your faces.  In your case, we'll all be placing bets online as to which rock you will crawl under.   Come the day.

If such evidence existed, why has it taken 30 years for someone to reveal it? Although it would seem that they still haven't - why the big secret? Surely if you and others come prove Jeremy is innocent, you should be shouting it from the rooftops? Or could it be that the 'evidence' can be argued against?

[Caroline]

But like we cannot know what Granny Speakman thought of Jeremy even though Miss Marple AKA Ann Eaton tried to mislead people about this relationship

Actually we can, he told me they weren't close but he was close to his grandfather.

[Jane]

If such evidence existed, why has it taken 30 years for someone to reveal it? Although it would seem that they still haven't - why the big secret? Surely if you and others come prove Jeremy is innocent, you should be shouting it from the rooftops? Or could it be that the 'evidence' can be argued against?

Caroline, I'm experiencing a strange feeling of deja vu. I was saying exactly that when I first joined and it was being suggested that there was evidence which would release Jeremy imminently yet nothing was being done about it.

[Jane]

Actually we can, he told me they weren't close but he was close to his grandfather.

Ah. That sounds as if it's as close to the truth as we can get. No need to question it.

[lookout]

Would that be your own definition of what constitutes normal or Jean B's of what passed as being normal for Sheila?

Not my definition because it wasn't me that saw her,but Mrs B hadn't remarked on her being abnormal in any way,and being as the woman had known both children over the years I'd have said that she'd been correct in her description.

[Adam]

The gun laying on top of Shiela, all doors locked, jb outside, the bible
Etc etc

All those things can be staged by Bamber. The bible shows Bamber is guilty. Threads created.

Bamber could exit WHF by the kitchen window. Then shut the window from outside.

That's why Roch got upset when I responded to his post by asking the reasonable question -  'What Physical Evidence' & just called me a xxxxx.

There is no crime scene physical evidence that shows Sheila is guilty.

[Adam]

Then why wasn't blood on the first three baffles? I see you say it is a POSSIBILITY of other blood.
WHY would Jeremy wipe the  rifle, he had already told the cops he handled the gun the night before.
Anyway according to the guilters he was wearing a wet suit and gloves,
It wasn't a matter of police fingerprints on the weapon, it was more to do with how many different police prints there were. It would show it was handled by multiple police.

Why would there be blood on the first three baffles ?  Back splatter is random & no one will have control of what baffles the blood ends up on.