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Offline lookout

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Jeremy Bamber was guilty of being a big headed spoilt brat, but nothing more.





I agree buddy.

Offline buddy

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Hello Buddy I agree with you on all those points I also think he was immature and did not live in the real world.
Yes Susan very immature, and never really thought that he would found guilty, it must have been a shock. He realised too late that others had a lot to lose if he was acquitted.

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I agree buddy.
Lookout, I believe he pissed off Jones, and he thought he would show Jeremy who was boss.

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Lookout, I believe he pissed off Jones, and he thought he would show Jeremy who was boss.





I've no doubt about that buddy.

Offline Jane

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Lookout, I believe he pissed off Jones, and he thought he would show Jeremy who was boss.

The investing of so much emotional involvement -that he was prepared to send a man down for life to get revenge- in a policeman's relationship with a suspect, is laughable.

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according to Jones and Clarke Sheila's body was laid on top of the bed alongside the body of June Bamber, with the rifle in-between both bodies on the bed, and Sheila having a bible on her chest! That's what they told Ann Eaton that morning after both officers had visited the main bedroom and seen the bodies of the two females, Sheila only having one bullet hole in her neck by that stage!

Jones and Clarke saw Sheila and Junes body on the bed prior to cops moving June's body onto the bedroom floor by the door on one side of the bed, and Sheila's body on the floor on the other side of the bed! The rifle which Jones and Clarke saw laid in-between the bodies of Sheila and June on the bed, was then deliberately  placed on top of Sheila's body in time for PC Bird to take photographs of it there after 10 O'clock that same morning!

Anyone who claims Jeremy killed his sister with use of the anshuzt rifle and silencer on the bedroom floor after 8.10am cannot grasp reality, because there were only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am, and Sheila was not one of those three bodies!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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The investing of so much emotional involvement -that he was prepared to send a man down for life to get revenge- in a policeman's relationship with a suspect, is laughable.





Not impossible though.

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Yes Susan very immature, and never really thought that he would found guilty, it must have been a shock. He realised too late that others had a lot to lose if he was acquitted.

Buddy he came over as being quite arrogant and cocky in Court and I have to ask myself had he killed his family he would never have behaved like that he would have been mournful and sad.  His behaviour helped to convict him he was never expecting to be found guilty I think I read he made a deal with some newspaper about his acquittal.  What a silly young ma.  His behaviour after the murders was not that of a guilty man but an immature attention seeking silly boy.

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Not impossible though.

Try proving it. It seems to me that it's alleged character flaws that are being levied against the police to try to show that Jeremy is innocent, yet it's denied that Jeremy had any.

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Try proving it. It seems to me that it's alleged character flaws that are being levied against the police to try to show that Jeremy is innocent, yet it's denied that Jeremy had any.






A clash of personalities in the police department,or indeed any establishment,is a recipe for disaster.
It becomes a " game " of who can deflate someone's big fat ego,first.

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A clash of personalities in the police department,or indeed any establishment,is a recipe for disaster.
It becomes a " game " of who can deflate someone's big fat ego,first.

So are you saying the police regarded, as a joke, that they were able to put Jeremy behind bars? Bottom line was, it was down to the jury.

Offline mike tesko

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A female body which moved from the kitchen downstairs to the main bedroom upstairs after 8.10am, a rifle at the first floor box room window (7.15am) onto Sheila's body after 8.10am, the substitution of one of the two original bullets recovered from Sheila's body so cops could make out the case for her death being caused by two shots from the same gun, an hour's worth of 'informatives' necessary to make the minds up of the senior cops at the scene, on the best way to proceed in presenting the death of Sheila in the main bedroom despite her death already having been reported downstairs in the kitchen earlier, Sheila's body along with June's both on the bed, then moved to the floor after the TFG had left the scene soon after 9am, and blood from Sheila's wounds inside a silencer tell a story all by itself!

Jeremy did not kill his sister,  in the main bedroom after 8.10am that morning! Her body wasn't even upstairs by that stage, there were only three bodies  upstairs! How was it possible for Sheila to have already been dead elsewhere in the farmhouse (kitchen) with the rifle she supposedly used to kill herself being at a first floor box room window from 7.15am onward? Who moved the rifle from that box room window into the possession of Sheila on the bedroom floor after 8.10am? Not Sheila if she was already dead that's for sure, and not Jeremy because he had no opportunity to kill his sister in the main bedroom after her body arrived there beyond 8.10am! Then of course, because somebody removed the silencer from the gun after Sheila had been shot and killed on the bedroom floor long after 8.10am, the only people who could possibly have done this were the police themselves, not Sheila, not Jeremy, not any as yet unidentified assassin or hitman, only the cops themselves! And, how much of a coincidence is it that 'Stan' Jones should return to the scene from Jeremy's cottage after 11am, to collect 4 exhibits, SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4, (SBJ/1 being the silencer)? How could David Boutflour then find the same silencer on 10th August 1985, if Jones had taken possession of it on the first morning of the investigation and he had removed it from the scene once already? 'Stan' Jones would tell the COLP investigators in 1992 that he could not remember why he returned to the farmhouse late on that first morning or what he did on that occasion? The entries in the original Major Incident Property Register created in connection with the four murders and a suicide investigation tell a different story, Jones took possession of four exhibits from the scene on 7 August 1985, one of which (SBJ/1) was the silencer! These four exhibits were ommitted from the new Major Incident Register created a month later by which time the course of the investigation had changed into one of five murders! Why did cops try to conceal the fact that 'Stan' Jones had seized the silencer from the scene on the first morning of the investigation?

Well, because by that stage relatives were pinning a lot of hope upon the silencer with Sheila's blood inside it that David Boutflour recovered from the cupboard on 10 August 1985! If the truth had come out during the 1986 trial and the subsequent 2002 appeal that cops had removed the silencer from the scene and kept it for a couple of days before returning it to the scene by the evening of 9 August 1985, it would have impacted upon the integrity of the silencer evidence in general in the eventual prosecution of Jeremy Bamber! Jones and Jones, knew that the silencer had been fitted to the barrel of the anshuzt rifle at the time Sheila got shot and killed on the bedroom floor, and the cops tried to conceal its use in that shooting because it presented the cops with an insurmountable problem if they hoped to present the circumstances of Sheila's death as caused by use of one gun which fired both bullets!
« Last Edit: April 28, 2017, 06:23:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline Adam

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Yes I agree, his defence was crap.


Why ?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Adam

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Jeremy Bamber was guilty of being a big headed spoilt brat, but nothing more.

The problem is the only Sheila scenario you created has been dismissed. No one agrees Nevill rang Bamber after being shot 4 times.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Adam

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Buddy he came over as being quite arrogant and cocky in Court and I have to ask myself had he killed his family he would never have behaved like that he would have been mournful and sad.  His behaviour helped to convict him he was never expecting to be found guilty I think I read he made a deal with some newspaper about his acquittal.  What a silly young ma.  His behaviour after the murders was not that of a guilty man but an immature attention seeking silly boy.

Yes he didn't come across well after the massacre. And then after his arrest. That was because he was innocent ?

Can you respond to my questions on you're Sheila scenario. Otherwise it will have to be dismissed.

If yours gets dismissed all supporters will have to support Bamber for new reasons as no one can explain in 32 years how Sheila committed the massacre.

Either Mike's/Sherlock's suggestions a hit man team/RB committed the massacre or Bamber somehow had an unfair trial which supporters always claim. 

There is no way Nugs or Lookout will create a scenario while Mike & Roch are not going to elaborate from 'by shooting them' or 'Sheila shot them but I can't explain the phone calls'. I'm not going to wait for David's fifth attempt he's apparently been working on for 5 months.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2017, 06:17:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.