Author Topic: Reason to believe cops shot Sheila, and how her blood ended up inside Silencer!  (Read 78629 times)

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Offline mike tesko

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581 photographs taken in connection with this tragedy, but only 223 disclosed to the solicitors representing Jeremy Bamber prior to commencement of the October 1986 Chelmsford Crown Court trial - 358 photographs not disclosed at all, not in time for the commencement of the trial in 1986, or by the time f the 2002 appeal!

358 photographs many of which were capable of casting serious doubt on the claim by firearm officers that the bodies of the two females had been originally found on the floor either side of the bed in the main bedroom, Sheila's body in possession of a gun she had no right to be in possession of, if Jeremy Bamber, had shot and killed her, in view of the fact that that rifle was at 7.15am resting against a first floor box room window, as confirmed by two police officers performing containment and observation duties in the grounds of the farmhouse! A rifle at the box room window, and on the body of Sheila on the bedroom floor to the left of the bed as viewed from the foot of the said bed? A rifle in two different places at one and the same time (if Jeremy Bamber be the killer), 7.15am..

A body in two different places, a dead female downstairs in kitchen (7.35am, 7.37am, and 7.38am), and only three further bodies upstairs by 8.10am, but if the raid team found Sheila's body upstairs as claimed in their witness statements there would have only been one body downstairs at 7.35am, 7.37am, and 7.38am, and four bodies upstairs by 8.10am...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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I don't think that the silencer was used.

So, prey tell how did Sheila's unique blood get inside the silencer?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Where does it say that?

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/what-really-happened

Sorry I've just re read it. It says Sheila was alive when the raid team entered WHF. However she then shot herself.

The police deciding to frame Bamber a month later because they wanted to hide the fact that Sheila was still alive in the kitchen.

It is posters on here who are suggesting that the police shot Sheila.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 12:45:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline lookout

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Blood is blood is blood--------------so many variations so many with the same grouping. What is most important is DNA of which there'd proved to have been a mixture,not just Sheila's.

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Offline Caroline

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Few people have the imagination for reality

Offline Roch

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Never a true word said (paragraph 2 bottom lines)

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1624.0;attach=7669

Taken literally it could only mean one of the following:

He knew they would find everyone injured or dead because he had foreknowledge of Sheila's intentions and/or he assisted her in some way - i.e. concocted a reason to leave a loaded weapon out. 

He had a 'second sight' intuition that things had gone badly inside the farmhouse, since receiving his father's call.

What it most likely means is that his emotions were vacillating between hope, fear and dread. One minute he thought the worst - the next minute he reassured himself that things might not be that bad.  We all do it in times of great stress - for example - a  GP referral to a specialist because of a lump or mole or whatever.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 01:57:PM by Roch »

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Taken literally it could only mean one of the following:

He knew they would find everyone injured or dead because he had foreknowledge of Sheila's intentions and/or he assisted her in some way - i.e. concocted a reason to leave a loaded weapon out. 

He had a 'second sight' intuition that things had gone badly inside the farmhouse, since receiving his father's call.

What it most likely means is that his emotions were vacillating between hope, fear and dread. One minute he thought the worst - the next minute he reassured himself that things might not be that bad.  We all do it in times of great stress - for example - a  GP referral to a specialist because of a lump or mole or whatever.
Again it could mean the police lied about this statement, part of the cover up, when you do profile analysis of criminals they do give a past tense referral, if he had said that he feared what they might find it is different to saying knowing what they might find, criminal Profile analysis watch for these signs.  It can often be a dead give away now days Roch.

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Again it could mean the police lied about this statement, part of the cover up, when you do profile analysis of criminals they do give a past tense referral, if he had said that he feared what they might find it is different to saying knowing what they might find, criminal Profile analysis watch for these signs.  It can often be a dead give away now days Roch.

It's a good spot by you Justice.  Like many things - it's open to interpretation.  I've never felt surer about Sheila having been the killer - it's so frustrating because we have to wait for further evidence to become known publicly.  But because I am so sure - I can only interpret your spot in the manner aleady described.

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http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/what-really-happened

Sorry I've just re read it. It says Sheila was alive when the raid team entered WHF. However she then shot herself.

The police deciding to frame Bamber a month later because they wanted to hide the fact that Sheila was still alive in the kitchen.

It is posters on here who are suggesting that the police shot Sheila.

OK, cheers.
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Never a true word said (paragraph 2 bottom lines)

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1624.0;attach=7669

Sheila making no contribution at all to fostering conversations suggests she was zonked out on Haloperidol.

The suggestion that she was so quiet as she was planning the massacre in her mind has received no support.
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Yes Sheila was alive when police entered farmhouse and the TFG left her in the master bedroom with a rifle at her side.  Not on top of her.  Later on, for some inextricable reason, other officers saw fit to place a rifle on top of her body before the SOC photography began.  The police didn't shoot her by accident with one of the rifles in the farmhouse or anything ridiculous like that.  They just decided to move a rifle on top of her body - for no reason whatsoever
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Sheila making no contribution at all to fostering conversations suggests she was zonked out on Haloperidol.

The suggestion that she was so quiet as she was planning the massacre in her mind has received no support.





Ever heard of the phrase-----calm before the storm ? Well this also reflects a person's behaviour as well as an imminent storm at sea. Except at sea it's predictable,in a human,it isn't.

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Has Jeremy ever displayed any unpredictable mental health traits in his 31 years ? Such as outbursts of violence,night terrors or unusual behaviour akin to him having issues ?

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https://youtu.be/mmCART1vcCo

Mike believes the police killed Sheila & stage managed the scene.

Who knows.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 04:00:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.