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Offline Roch

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #495 on: April 18, 2017, 04:41:PM »
The theory of the cannabis in the safe came from when Roland Pargeter was helping on the farm,Neville had caught him smoking it,so took it off him and sent him packing.
" Roly " as he was known, hadn't believed that Jeremy had murdered his family,and supported him until he left London to stay in Ibiza. Like Sheila,he'd only been married for 3 years before divorcing his wife. I think his ex-wife and child live abroad somewhere.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #496 on: April 18, 2017, 04:55:PM »
Ah yes,Portugal. It's AP who lives in Ibiza.

This is the thing with harvest-times on farms that there are so many casual workers coming and going you couldn't possibly keep check of who was who,quite dodgy really. Some chequered backgrounds too.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #497 on: April 18, 2017, 05:44:PM »
Are you saying that after killing June, Sheila had a shower and then put on one of June's spare nighties ?

Adam did I suggest that what a totally ridiculous thing to say ::)

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #498 on: April 18, 2017, 05:46:PM »
Adam did I suggest that what a totally ridiculous thing to say ::)

"Adam do you think a young lady would wear a nightie like that the nightie is more befitting to a lady of June's age :)".

Explain what you meant.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #499 on: April 18, 2017, 06:03:PM »
If Sheila wanted to kill herself and the twins, it would have been far easier to do it at her flat and in a much less violent way. Taking on June and Nevill was a risk and if she had aforethought, I'm sure she would have factored that in.

Yes obviously when you are planning to kill your self you are in a really logical mindset
Get real
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #500 on: April 18, 2017, 06:07:PM »
That she wanted attention and due to her looks having faded was finding it difficult to get. The removal of the bedroom telephone, if not pre-planned was certainly fortuitous, and I have my suspicions that a hand held mobile telephone can be broken by an electric storm. In any case there was no explanation for the  removal of the sights on the gun, which was primed for murder.

You are joking

There was no evidence of her looks fading

She was still stunningly beautiful on the day she died

Just a shame Colin didn't not realise how desperately ill his wife was
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #501 on: April 18, 2017, 06:14:PM »
Perhaps being at the farm (where she was less happy) and around her mam (with her religiosity etc); and the rejection by Colin; and the recent contact with her birth mother; and the reduction in her anti-psychotic; and fact there were farm weapons - became a lethal combination regarding her mental health.  Factor in an added conversation about extra assistance for the twins etc (which took place at the farm - not in London).
Good post and how I see things
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #502 on: April 18, 2017, 06:16:PM »
There is evidence she was staged - because TFG members expressed serious, collective concerns to their superiors that body / bible / gun had been moved from their original positions witnessed by TFG. 

The concerns led to a question and answer session.  The TFG did what they could to complain - but were effectively 'slapped down'.  Which ties in with the info given in the opinion on here, regarding police culture at that time.   

The handling of this case has been diabolical
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #503 on: April 18, 2017, 06:20:PM »
I must say when I found my birth mother, granted she didn't want to know me it was one of the most upsetting times in my life and I had a lot of conflicting emotions, and was very up and down, don't forget Sheila had also had a miscarriage and blamed herself, another trying time for a woman, she may of felt her remaining children she was going to lose, her parents didn't understand her and the rejection from Colin after the rejection at birth would of severely impacted her self worth, couple this with a severe mental problem and mind altering drugs, it's a recipe for disaster. The most sane of minds would probably of found this difficult to deal with let alone a paranoid schizophrenic.

Lucy at the time this case was heard nobody had instant access to the Internet

It's easy to google mothers that kill themselves and their children
It happens more than you think
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #504 on: April 18, 2017, 06:25:PM »
Yes obviously when you are planning to kill your self you are in a really logical mindset
Get real

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #505 on: April 18, 2017, 07:41:PM »
You are joking

There was no evidence of her looks fading

She was still stunningly beautiful on the day she died

Just a shame Colin didn't not realise how desperately ill his wife was
Ann Eaton said she saw crow's feet around her eyes where once she never needed make up. Nurse Caroline Heath said she looked a mess a few weeks before the tragedy. I would agree that away from the bright lights and party lifestyle she was young enough still to regain her looks.

As for Jeremy, there never was a cross word said between him and his parents and he loved the farmwork..  http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1935.0.html

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #506 on: April 18, 2017, 08:51:PM »
"Adam do you think a young lady would wear a nightie like that the nightie is more befitting to a lady of June's age :)".

Explain what you meant.

Adam I guess your knowledge on ladies nightwear attire is very limited :)

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #507 on: April 18, 2017, 09:09:PM »
Adam I guess your knowledge on ladies nightwear attire is very limited :)





Don't kid yourself,Susan,he probably wears them. :)) :)) :))

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #508 on: April 18, 2017, 09:29:PM »
Adam I guess your knowledge on ladies nightwear attire is very limited :)

Nighties from 1985 is not my specialist subject. But never too late to learn.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #509 on: April 18, 2017, 09:31:PM »
Nighties from 1985 is not my specialist subject. But never too late to learn.

Adam I thought not but do enjoy learning hehehe :)