DNA Testing In the 80's

[Caroline]

   According to the CT the CCRC wrote to EP requesting the original logs and the defence were informed on the 3 February 2012 that the original logs could not be located. Do you dispute this?

As far as I can remember, EP did supply a message log on request but Jeremy is disputing that it was the original and claims it was a forged copy. The log was tested and found to be unaltered, however, as I said Jeremy is claiming that it's not the original log.

[Adam]

  Esda testing can be carried out on the original copies. This was explained.

A bit unfair to have Esda testing. Of course original police logs will be edited.

[gringo]

As far as I can remember, EP did supply a message log on request but Jeremy is disputing that it was the original and claims it was a forged copy. The log was tested and found to be unaltered, however, as I said Jeremy is claiming that it's not the original log.

  The CCRC are also claiming that it isn't the original log. They have stated that EP have said that the original document cannot be located.

[gringo]

A bit unfair to have Esda testing. Of course original police logs will be edited.

   Tell it to those whose convictions were overturned due to ESDA testing.
    Why is it obvious that original police logs will be edited? You do understand that tampering with evidence is a criminal offence.
    Interesting that you find it acceptable for police to edit logs.

[gringo]

  The CCRC are also claiming that it isn't the original log. They have stated that EP have said that the original document cannot be located.

  Of course it can also be inferred from this that EP are also claiming that it isn't the original log.

[Adam]

Message log of what ? Nevill's call to the police ?

[gringo]

Message log of what ? Nevill's call to the police ?

   The original call logs. Regardless of your belief of Neville's call, logs were kept. The original is required for ESDA testing. Original call logs exist whether Neville called or not. Why is this difficult for you to understand? It really isn't complicated.

[Roch]

He's a police stooge / troll. 

His roll is to constantly, relentlessly troll the forum, for the purpose of tying-up defence based posters in endless rounds of bile.

Am I right Adam... or is this just another daft conspiracy theory? 

[Adam]

   The original call logs. Regardless of your belief of Neville's call, logs were kept. The original is required for ESDA testing. Original call logs exist whether Neville called or not. Why is this difficult for you to understand? It really isn't complicated.

It's not difficult to understand. I just asked what original document the CT are claiming they have not got.

If EP are saying they have not got it, it should be accepted. Not sure how Esda testing would help.

The CT already seem conifident that Nevill called the 5th furthest away police station. The exact same one Bamber called.  Unless that's more properganda.

[gringo]

It's not difficult to understand. I just asked what original document the CT are claiming they have not got.

If EP are saying they have not got it, it should be accepted. Not sure how Esda testing would help.

The CT already seem conifident that Nevill called the 5th furthest away police station. The exact same one Bamber called.  Unless that's more properganda.

  I have made clear what documents are requested.
    If you are unaware what ESDA testing would establish then I suggest that you research the matter yourself.  Numerous convictions have been overturned since the advent of ESDA testing and there is an abundance of articles regarding this.

[gringo]

He's a police stooge / troll. 

His roll is to constantly, relentlessly troll the forum, for the purpose of tying-up defence based posters in endless rounds of bile.

Am I right Adam... or is this just another daft conspiracy theory? 

   I know, Roch. There are unfortunately a few on here whose purpose is to divert.

[Steve_uk]

From memory I thought ESDA testing had been done on the original West and Bonnett logs and they were found not to be contiguous.

[Adam]

  I have made clear what documents are requested.
    If you are unaware what ESDA testing would establish then I suggest that you research the matter yourself.  Numerous convictions have been overturned since the advent of ESDA testing and there is an abundance of articles regarding this.

Really. I'll investigate ESDA's overturned convictions.

[Caroline]

   I know, Roch. There are unfortunately a few on here whose purpose is to divert.

They are on BOTH sides!

[Caroline]

  The CCRC are also claiming that it isn't the original log. They have stated that EP have said that the original document cannot be located.

Is there an official record of this?