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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #90 on: April 05, 2017, 04:28:PM »
Yest it was in several places at once on a number of occasions  :))

Oh yes.

Do you agree that RB found out he had similar blood to Sheila & shot himself. Then scratched the aga. 

Or the treacherous Stan Jones somehow had access to Sheila's blood & expertly sprayed it inside, then scratched the aga ?

Or was it a joint effort ?
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« Reply #91 on: April 05, 2017, 04:31:PM »
The silencer was handled by multiple people, and should never have been used as evidence.
Jeremy was stitched by Jones the family, and Mugford.

The police, DPP, courts, CCRC & COA disagree.

The relatives handed it to Jones. Jones then passed it onto Huntingdon for tests. It's called processing evidence.
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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #92 on: April 05, 2017, 04:33:PM »
Oh yes.

Do you agree that RB found out he had similar blood to Sheila & shot himself. Then scratched the aga.  Or the treacherous Stan Jones somehow had access to Sheila's blood & expertly sprayed it inside, then scratched the aga ?

Or was it a joint effort ?

Personally, I suspect some kind of joint effort.   However I was referring to the actual exhibit having been in two places at once on several occasions.

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« Reply #93 on: April 05, 2017, 04:39:PM »
Personally, I suspect some kind of joint effort.   However I was referring to the actual exhibit having been in two places at once on several occasions.

A joint effort.

You mean RB shot himself. Then Stan went back to WHF & scratched the aga & asked the relatives to say in their WS's they found it with paint on ?
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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #94 on: April 05, 2017, 04:55:PM »
The silencer was handled by multiple people, and should never have been used as evidence.
Jeremy was stitched by Jones the family, and Mugford.





Agreed.

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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #95 on: April 05, 2017, 04:59:PM »
Because they have to put a case together.





Erm,they had the " evidence " in front of them !! Shouldn't the case have been closed there and then ? Why did they take another 12 months ? Was it because the relatives kicked off ? He was even allowed to go abroad ??

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« Reply #96 on: April 05, 2017, 05:10:PM »
The silencer was sent away for testing. He was arrested after they got the results.




The silencer was found on the 10th of August 1985--------sent to the lab. on the 13th !!
Why did EP wait 12 months before arresting him ??

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The silencer was found on the 10th of August 1985--------sent to the lab. on the 13th !!
Why did EP wait 12 months before arresting him ??

Bamber was arrested in September 1985. Less than two months after the massacre.

It would have been sooner but he was in St Tropez.
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« Reply #98 on: April 05, 2017, 05:57:PM »
Bamber was arrested in September 1985. Less than two months after the massacre.

It would have been sooner but he was in St Tropez.



He was arrested for questioning only in 1985. Why wasn't he imprisoned then after the blood had been found in the silencer a month before ??
He was re-arrested in October 1986,so what happened in-between time ?
Because he went on holiday ?? You ARE joking  ::)

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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2017, 06:02:PM »


He was arrested for questioning only in 1985. Why wasn't he imprisoned then after the blood had been found in the silencer a month before ??
He was re-arrested in October 1986,so what happened in-between time ?
Because he went on holiday ?? You ARE joking  ::)

No Lookout.

He was arrested on the 29th September 1985.

He was found guilty at court on 14th October 1986 after an 8 week trial.
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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #100 on: April 05, 2017, 06:10:PM »
Actually Wikipedia says Bamber was arrested on the 8th September 1985. Which was only a month after the massacre.

Either way, it wasn't a year after the massacre as Lookout claims.
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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #101 on: April 05, 2017, 06:15:PM »



The silencer was found on the 10th of August 1985--------sent to the lab. on the 13th !!
Why did EP wait 12 months before arresting him ??

Eh? 12 months? He was arrested in early September and remanded - where are you getting 12 months from? I think you need to check your facts Lookout - he spent over a year on remand!
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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #102 on: April 05, 2017, 06:16:PM »
No Lookout.

He was arrested on the 29th September 1985.

He was found guilty at court on 14th October 1986 after an 8 week trial.





12 MONTHS LATER !! So what exactly had been the proof given that D I Cook hadn't reported seeing blood on the silencer,even after he'd dismantled it ? DS Davidson who'd handled the evidence forms wasn't even aware there was a silencer involved ?

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« Reply #103 on: April 05, 2017, 06:25:PM »
Which meant he was bailed for 12 months------but allowed a passport to go abroad ?? I thought that in the terms of bail,you couldn't leave the country ? EP waited until he'd finished his holiday ?? Very good of them wasn't it ?

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Re: DNA Testing In the 80's
« Reply #104 on: April 05, 2017, 06:38:PM »
Which meant he was bailed for 12 months------but allowed a passport to go abroad ?? I thought that in the terms of bail,you couldn't leave the country ? EP waited until he'd finished his holiday ?? Very good of them wasn't it ?

I believe a nee Howie and her husband stood bail for him.