The Invisible Faceless, Nameless

[lookout]

So he just has an opinion like the rest of us! 

Nope. Just a tad more !

[Caroline]

Nope. Just a tad more !

His opinion isn't anymore relevant than anyone else's.

[lookout]

His opinion isn't anymore relevant than anyone else's.

How do you know ? He's a police officer and knows everything there is to know.

[Jane]

How do you know ? He's a police officer and knows everything there is to know.

Why would he know any more than any other police officer......................unless you've given him your version?

[lookout]

Why would he know any more than any other police officer......................unless you've given him your version?

I suppose because he was an Inspector his knowledge of crime would/is more in-depth. He has friends/colleagues who are still in the force and I know he's briefed,or kept up to date with certain crimes/criminals because this is how I knew about his involvement with the last crime he'd covered.

I didn't need to give him my version of anything. He knows how I feel about this case. I was surprised he knew what he did about it.

[Jane]

I suppose because he was an Inspector his knowledge of crime would/is more in-depth. He has friends/colleagues who are still in the force and I know he's briefed,or kept up to date with certain crimes/criminals because this is how I knew about his involvement with the last crime he'd covered.

I didn't need to give him my version of anything. He knows how I feel about this case. I was surprised he knew what he did about it.

Why should he have "more in-depth" knowledge of a case he wasn't involved with? Why would he be briefed/kept up to date with something that happened whilst he was probably no more than a bobby on the beat? I don't, though, doubt his involvement, at more senior level, with a recent case case.

[Caroline]

I suppose because he was an Inspector his knowledge of crime would/is more in-depth. He has friends/colleagues who are still in the force and I know he's briefed,or kept up to date with certain crimes/criminals because this is how I knew about his involvement with the last crime he'd covered.

I didn't need to give him my version of anything. He knows how I feel about this case. I was surprised he knew what he did about it.

I don't car if he's King Cop of Copsville - he wasn't involved in the investigation and just has an opinion.

[notsure]

I don't believe they -the nameless, faceless- exist. The retired police officers of my own acquaintance all think he's guilty. However, back when I thought he was innocent, I never believed he'd be released.

you suprising me Jane, do you think for a moment those involved in the cover up in the Hillsborough disaster would have ever come forward if the victims families hadn't fought tooth and nail to get to the truth.

[Jane]

you suprising me Jane, do you think for a moment those involved in the cover up in the Hillsborough disaster would have ever come forward if the victims families hadn't fought tooth and nail to get to the truth.

I can't see how Hillsborough and Bamber are in any way related.

[lookout]

you suprising me Jane, do you think for a moment those involved in the cover up in the Hillsborough disaster would have ever come forward if the victims families hadn't fought tooth and nail to get to the truth.

No.

[notsure]

I can't see how Hillsborough and Bamber are in any way related.

Eh! I was suggesting that people / police or whoever who aren't honest in what truly happened aren't going to come forward whichever case it was. The similarity on Hillsborough and bamber is how long it took for the truth to come out. Bamber doesn't have family to support him and the numbers thry had in Hillsborough case.

[lookout]

Police lied on both counts.

[Jane]

Eh! I was suggesting that people / police or whoever who aren't honest in what truly happened aren't going to come forward whichever case it was. The similarity on Hillsborough and bamber is how long it took for the truth to come out. Bamber doesn't have family to support him and the numbers thry had in Hillsborough case.

OK. Let's see if I can explain this. Firstly, I think Jeremy is guilty. This means that IF there were discrepancies in what was said by police, it doesn't mean that Jeremy is innocent. To me, it simply doesn't follow that if police lied, Jeremy is automatically innocent. I totally agree that the dishonest aren't likely to come forward, maybe on the grounds that they believe the end justified the means........but I can't tell you what their mind sets are.

[notsure]

OK. Let's see if I can explain this. Firstly, I think Jeremy is guilty. This means that IF there were discrepancies in what was said by police, it doesn't mean that Jeremy is innocent. To me, it simply doesn't follow that if police lied, Jeremy is automatically innocent. I totally agree that the dishonest aren't likely to come forward, maybe on the grounds that they believe the end justified the means........but I can't tell you what their mind sets are.

I sort of get what you mean 😂😂😂😂😂

[petey]

you suprising me Jane, do you think for a moment those involved in the cover up in the Hillsborough disaster would have ever come forward if the victims families hadn't fought tooth and nail to get to the truth.

Very very few of the key figures did come forward. At the inquest the South Yorkshire Police force reprehensively used every trick in the book to try and pin blame on the fans and avoid taking responsibility. This disgraceful approach prolonged the families anguish at the inquests to over 2 years when they could have been completed within a year.

David duckenfieid, Bernard Murray, Norman bettison, David crompton,  Stefan popper, Margaret thatcher, Bernard Ingham......et al never came forward to accept responsibility for their roles in the disaster and the aftermath.

JFT96