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Offline mike tesko

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The rifle at first floor box room window could not have been with Sheila's body downstairs in the kitchen (7.37am) at the time Jeapes and Brown identified it to be resting against the first floor box room window! Neither could it have been resting on top of Sheila's body on the main bedroom floor at one and the same time! This lone rifle could not have been here, there, and everywhere!

Logic dictates what I am saying as being true!
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Offline mike tesko

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In order for the scenario as portrayed by the position of the five bodies as shown in PC Birds edited Crime Scene photographs, cops would have been dealing with a murder, and a murder, followed by a further three bodies upstairs, a suicide and two murders!!
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Offline Caroline

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The earliest record I know of. That mentions bloody prints on the bible. Is a letter from Jeremy to Mike in 2009.

From Jeremy! Not from Lookout and nothing about a palm print!
« Last Edit: March 13, 2017, 06:52:PM by Caroline »
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Offline mike tesko

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In order for the scenario as portrayed by the position of the five bodies as shown in PC Birds edited Crime Scene photographs, cops would have been dealing with a murder, and a murder, followed by a further three bodies upstairs, a suicide and two murders!!

Yet, there is absolutely no evidence that this was what cops were dealing with up to and inclusive of 8.10am - and the rifle was still resting alongside the first floor box room window!!!
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Offline Caroline

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As I'd mentioned once before,I've thought that the blood on the Bible belonged to June,as did the Bible itself and also the contents. The " Love one another " was June's and probably to do with a Bible class.
Sadly,it may have been put there to remind her of the class that she hadn't attended when she'd been expected.

What's that got to do with the hand print?
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Offline mike tesko

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We know that the rifle at the first floor box room window must have been removed by somebody after the TFG entered the farmhouse! It was the only gaddammit rifle upstairs so it was important to know at which stage it disappeared from its early vantage point!

Somebody removed it!!

Who?

When?

Why?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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We know that the rifle at the first floor box room window must have been removed by somebody after the TFG entered the farmhouse! It was the only gaddammit rifle upstairs so it was important to know at which stage it disappeared from its early vantage point!

Somebody removed it!!

Who?

When?

Why?

Jeapes and Brown appear to have been the two police officers who recognised this rifle at the box room window so I would think that it was part of their remit to keep a trianed eye upon it! Yet, they remain silent upon the matter?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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Lets face it, the cops are surrounding a farmhouse, they have been there for two to three hours already, when suddenly a rifle appears on view at a first floor box room window! A gun by Jove!! This coincides with the TFG making its approach to enter the farmhouse to try to bring the siege to an end! They believed that Sheila had the gun, the gun suddenly is shown to be at the box room window! Who placed it there? TFG enter farmhouse, report find of two bodies (not one) a male, and a female, a murder and a suicide! No reports of the rifle having gone missing from the box room window in the mean time! Neville Bambers death a clear murder, could not be entertained as a possible suicide! So, clearly two different bodies in kitchen and a rifle upstairs at a box room window!!
« Last Edit: March 13, 2017, 04:27:PM by mike tesko »
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Offline mike tesko

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The death of Sheila is not officially reported by the police surgeon, Dr Craig until 8.44am, he describing her body as being on the far side of the bed, with what appeared to be a solitary wound upon her neck!
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Offline mike tesko

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The death of Sheila is not officially reported by the police surgeon, Dr Craig until 8.44am, he describing her body as being on the far side of the bed, with what appeared to be a solitary wound upon her neck!

A rifle lay alongside her body by this stage (8.44am) so it seems reasonable to assume that by 8.44am the rifle had found its way for the box room window, onto her body, or at least alongside it!

Yet by 9 O'clock, when PS Adams visited the bedroom and viewed Sheila's body he states that he had no recollection of there being a gun with her body at that stage!

What, if anything had happened to the rifle in between the police surgeon Craig pronouncing Sheila's death at 8.44am, and PS Adams viewing the body 16 minutes afterwards? Well, cops removed it and placed it against the main bedroom window (23) where PC Bird subsequently photographed it!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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But in order to make it fit with your claims, there HAS to be an unedited version, and there's the possibility of a stored original...................but if there is, just supposing it doesn't fit with your claims? Thus far, there's no back up for anything you've said other than it can all be verified by what the hidden originals say. If those originals no longer are in existence OR are never revealed, we'll never know, however IF they should ever see the light of day, there's a huge chance they'll reveal that Jeremy's conviction was entirely safe.

Incorrect, otherwise there was no reason to edit them and create these typed composite versions!
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Offline mike tesko

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Mike, if EP very cleverly framed JB for these murders how many of them do you think were involved? Could they all keep their mouths shout for over 30 years?

The TFG certainly, and senior officers who attended were all to a greater or lesser degree involved in the cover up surrounding the death of Sheila Caffell, and SOCO...
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Offline Jane

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Incorrect, otherwise there was no reason to edit them and create these typed composite versions!


But we only have your word for it -without any proof- that the original was edited and composited in a way injurious to Jeremy's case.

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The earliest record I know of. That mentions bloody prints on the bible. Is a letter from Jeremy to Mike in 2009.
From August 2005: "a bloodied mirrored palmprinted image was in the bible"

Offline Caroline

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From August 2005: "a bloodied mirrored palmprinted image was in the bible"

From 1066 - "There was a bloodied palm print on the bible" - Doesn't anyone like to back up what they say? Where dose it state that?
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