Witheld Docs

[lookout]

Like most material which would have assisted the defence,it probably went up in smoke. Appalling !

[Jane]

Like most material which would have assisted the defence,it probably went up in smoke. Appalling !

And I'll hazard a guess that there won't be any documentation to suggest it ever existed.

[lookout]

And I'll hazard a guess that there won't be any documentation to suggest it ever existed.

Yes,and how easy is it to say " we haven't got it ",while scratching each others backs. People like that DO exist to save their own skins,jobs and pensions.
Would you risk a highly-paid job as a whistle-blower ?

[Jane]

Yes,and how easy is it to say " we haven't got it ",while scratching each others backs. People like that DO exist to save their own skins,jobs and pensions.
Would you risk a highly-paid job as a whistle-blower ?

As I've never had to make that decision, I can't give you the answer, but it brings to mind the terrible dilemma some must have suffered during the war re collaboration I don't believe these things to be undertaken lightly, ie would YOU sacrifice your and your family's security for someone you had no emotional attachment to?

[lookout]

As I've never had to make that decision, I can't give you the answer, but it brings to mind the terrible dilemma some must have suffered during the war re collaboration I don't believe these things to be undertaken lightly, ie would YOU sacrifice your and your family's security for someone you had no emotional attachment to?

It's not a case of sacrificing lives, or emotional detachment/attachment,it's a matter of principle,doing what you think is the right thing and above all, being honest with yourself as well as towards others. People are different and have different values in life . I've ALWAYS " listened to myself ", never others.

[Jane]

It's not a case of sacrificing lives, or emotional detachment/attachment,it's a matter of principle,doing what you think is the right thing and above all, being honest with yourself as well as towards others. People are different and have different values in life . I've ALWAYS " listened to myself ", never others.

Fine. Great. High minded. Laudable....................if you're so isolated physically and emotionally that you only have yourself to consider, otherwise our actions have a knock-on effect on others. It often becomes a question of balance. Maintaining that balance -unless one is totally self absorbed- can be challenging.

[Reader]

I would expect the pocketbook to exist, but contain nothing useful.

[Adam]

Columbo is on TV now.

Captain Kirk ( William Shatner) rang his victim while in the house with him. Then shot him. The conversation & shot were recorded. Captain Kirk pretending he was at his own house when making the call & hearing the gun shot. 

He then went home and rang the police to report a possible shooting. He arrived at the murder scene after the police (A bit like Bamber did). 

Columbo is already suspicious.

[lookout]

Except that JB hadn't reported a shooting scene-----someone else within WHF had !! While JB was outside,hence the armed police showing up. But we know nothing of the conversation that had gone on within,do we ? Or who it was who'd reported the shooting.

[Caroline]

Except that JB hadn't reported a shooting scene-----someone else within WHF had !! While JB was outside,hence the armed police showing up. But we know nothing of the conversation that had gone on within,do we ? Or who it was who'd reported the shooting.

No call and no conversation. Bews called the armed police, it had nothing to do with any call from WHF.

[lookout]

No call and no conversation. Bews called the armed police, it had nothing to do with any call from WHF.

And you would know that for sure ?

[Caroline]

And you would know that for sure ?

Yes, because there is no evidence to the contrary.

[Jane]

And you would know that for sure ?

I imagine with as much surety as your own belief in the first thing which came to mind in your attempt to defend Jeremy. Please enlighten me as on whose authority armed police were called out from inside WHF.

[lookout]

Yes, because there is no evidence to the contrary.

Well seeing that you always believed the word of mouth of JM and the relatives,I will also reiterrate that I " know what I know " by word of mouth and would also swear on oath !

[Jane]

Well seeing that you always believed the word of mouth of JM and the relatives,I will also reiterrate that I " know what I know " by word of mouth and would also swear on oath !

I feel certain you know, withOUT being reminded, that those words are a blatant lie. You KNOW that both Caroline and I once believed in Jeremy's innocence, and thus, all the cant aimed at others' feet, and the total lack of logical thinking attached to it.