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Offline Roch

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Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« on: August 11, 2024, 05:20:PM »
Are people who support guilt overly reliant on a weak CCRC?

I feel that the toothless performance of the CCRC, with it's deference towards police forces and prosecution agencies, and its ingrained reluctance to use its powers, acts like a protective shield for people who support guilt.

Why do people feel comfortable hiding behind such a barrier?

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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2024, 05:37:PM »
Are people who support guilt overly reliant on a weak CCRC?

Or they just make up their own nonsense.

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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2024, 06:44:PM »
Don't see what the big worry is there from EP perspective IF this conviction is eventually overturned. Apart from the disclosure issue.

The case is almost forty years old. Most of the top rank would have been in primary or secondary school when it took place. Some may have not even been born.

Think only Barlow is still alive of the original CID. And will be long since retired.

In regards CCRC, perhaps more money needs throwing at it although I understands it's blank chequebook anyway.

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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2024, 06:51:PM »
Then again this Bamber case is a hot potato.

I think if he does get an acquittal he will be the longest serving miscarriage of justice prisoner. From the top of my head Stephen Downing, 27 years Stefan kiszko 17 years,  Birmingham six 16 years. It's potentially 40 years of life lost. Maybe the CCRC will be worried that if they have to refer that they will be later chastened in the event of an aquittal of earlier rejections. But they did refer in 2001.

Maybe it's a case of not wanting to have egg on the face, or being scared of the possiblity of it happening?

However the guilters will say the ccrc have bent over backwards for Jeremy.
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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2024, 06:55:PM »
Roch seems to have a beef with the justice system. Would like to know why.

A lot of people have ulterior motives for supporting Bamber.
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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2024, 06:58:PM »
Less than 2% of CCRC referrals get passed to the COA.

DNA in 2002 was new evidence not discussed at trial. Any other ground then would have resulted in a CCRC dismissal.
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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2024, 07:23:PM »
Less than 2% of CCRC referrals get passed to the COA.

DNA in 2002 was new evidence not discussed at trial. Any other ground then would have resulted in a CCRC dismissal.

No disrespect but every case differs.

So percentages don't really have meaning in that context.
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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2024, 07:24:PM »
Roch seems to have a beef with the justice system. Would like to know why.


He's not in a club of one, But that doesn't alter my stance at all.
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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2024, 07:35:PM »
Roch seems to have a beef with the justice system. Would like to know why.

A lot of people have ulterior motives for supporting Bamber.

My beef is with people who cover their eyes and ears about the justice system not working as it should.

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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2024, 08:12:PM »
The current submission is playing the numbers game.

Each ground on it's own is not strong enough. So hopeing weight of numbers will work.

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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2024, 08:20:PM »
The current submission is playing the numbers game.

Each ground on it's own is not strong enough. So hopeing weight of numbers will work.

Think the window has weight myself.
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Re: Hiding behind a CCRC not fit for purpose?
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2024, 12:55:PM »
Needs more money throwing at it.
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