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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2017, 09:56:PM »
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Why not look for answers as to how the confession came about?

Like I've been doing?

What caused Simon Hall, after 10+ years of steadfastly maintaining innocence, to suddenly confess, then end his own life, within a period of 7 months?

Could the effects of the drugs he was taking have had any influence?

Why has the detail of the "official confession" never been made public?

I asked a question in another post - given the number of cases commented upon by Stephanie, as a result of Simon's confession, does she now believe everyone maintaining innocence is lying?

Barry George never confessed, in spite of clear mental difficulties.


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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2017, 10:01:PM »
Did George have access to the fire arm which killed Dando ?

I'm assuming the fire arm matching the type of bullet was not found in George's flat.
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #93 on: January 21, 2017, 10:04:PM »
Barry George never confessed, in spite of clear mental difficulties.

How do we know he has never confessed? We do not know what he may have told A N Other, who may have decided to say nothing!?

What is Barry George's actual diagnosis and what was he diagnosed with in the 1980's?
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #94 on: January 21, 2017, 10:05:PM »
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Why are supporters of Barry George minimizing the fact that he had duped the police on several occasions prior to his arrest for the murder of Jill Dando?

So, this apparently eccentric, mentally challenged loner was able to "dupe" professionally trained police investigators on "several occasions" ... that really doesn't say much about the professionally trained police investigators, does it?

In fact, the professionally trained police investigators failed to even spot the use of fake names until they, somewhat surprisingly, turned up in court. So Barry George not only duped police investigators, but the DPP as well - not one of them did any sort of ID check, background check, anything, to ascertain that the person they'd arrested/detained was actually the person he said he was.

Good job, guys!

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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #95 on: January 21, 2017, 10:09:PM »
So, this apparently eccentric, mentally challenged loner was able to "dupe" professionally trained police investigators on "several occasions" ... that really doesn't say much about the professionally trained police investigators, does it?

What evidence is there from the 1980's to suggest the above?

In fact, the professionally trained police investigators failed to even spot the use of fake names until they, somewhat surprisingly, turned up in court. So Barry George not only duped police investigators, but the DPP as well - not one of them did any sort of ID check, background check, anything, to ascertain that the person they'd arrested/detained was actually the person he said he was.

Erm, Because he'd duped them!?! His deceptions went undiscovered until this point.
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #96 on: January 21, 2017, 10:11:PM »
So, this apparently eccentric, mentally challenged loner was able to "dupe" professionally trained police investigators on "several occasions" ... that really doesn't say much about the professionally trained police investigators, does it?

In fact, the professionally trained police investigators failed to even spot the use of fake names until they, somewhat surprisingly, turned up in court. So Barry George not only duped police investigators, but the DPP as well - not one of them did any sort of ID check, background check, anything, to ascertain that the person they'd arrested/detained was actually the person he said he was.

Good job, guys!

well assuming a word they saif they said it doesn't say much for there detective skills.
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #97 on: January 21, 2017, 10:12:PM »
How do we know he has never confessed? We do not know what he may have told A N Other, who may have decided to say nothing!?

What is Barry George's actual diagnosis and what was he diagnosed with in the 1980's?

barrys suffers from Asperger's a form of autism.

he is also dysprcsic I belive.
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #98 on: January 21, 2017, 10:33:PM »
barrys suffers from Asperger's a form of autism.

So what, people diagnosed with AD do not commit violent crimes?  ::)
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2017, 10:45:PM »
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Did George have access to the fire arm which killed Dando ?

I'm assuming the fire arm matching the type of bullet was not found in George's flat.

No-one knows which firearm killed Jill Dando. All that is known is that it was a 9mm "short" cartridge - that takes it down to two (apparently) known makes of firearm available which could have fired such bullets - most certainly not an identified single weapon.

No weapon was found in Barry George's flat (to my knowledge) that matched the type of weapon capable of firing such a bullet.

Further, had Barry George fired that fatal shot, with the gun placed against the victim's temple, then returned the gun to his jacket pocket, the chances of a single particle of gunshot residue being the only evidence was severely undermined at the appeal hearing.

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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2017, 10:48:PM »
barrys suffers from Asperger's a form of autism.


And this study suggests 92% of convicted murderers suffer from Aspergers (AD) http://witscience.org/new-study-shows-92-convicted-murderers-suffer-aspergers-syndrome/
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2017, 10:58:PM »
Further, had Barry George fired that fatal shot, with the gun placed against the victim's temple, then returned the gun to his jacket pocket, the chances of a single particle of gunshot residue being the only evidence was severely undermined at the appeal hearing.

We do not know the gun was placed in any pocket. 

Barry George went home that day and changed.

We do not know what he was wearing and it was over a year later before he was arrested, plenty of time to dispose of any clothing worn and indeed a gun.
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #103 on: January 21, 2017, 11:07:PM »
And this study suggests 92% of convicted murderers suffer from Aspergers (AD) http://witscience.org/new-study-shows-92-convicted-murderers-suffer-aspergers-syndrome/

well thats complete bollocks anyone who has a basic understanding of the islness would know that.

easly debunked i refer you to this.

https://t.co/UzmxgZXsvN
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #104 on: January 21, 2017, 11:14:PM »
well thats complete bollocks anyone who has a basic understanding of the islness would know that.

Course it is because it doesn't support your argument. Maybe you should look at those people with dyspraxia and AD and a history of sex attacks on others.

And hasn't Michelle Diskin confirmed to the media they were exposed to domestic violence growing up?
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