Who funded Julie Mugford between September 1985 and October 1986?

[Roch]

She wasn't charged with anything so presumably she's still have been paid a salary. Even had she been suspended, I believe she'd still have been entitled to half pay.

I hadn't thought of that. 

[Stephanie]

I think you summed it up with your use of the term 'further'.  Her character has already been damaged. However, she was arguably a victim in all this - not given an opportunity to hang around after trial but sent packing over the pond - out of the picture.  It's a pity Stan told her that the phone call from Nevill to Jeremy never existed (when it fact - it could not be proven either way).  He had no right to do that.

Never considered she could have figured that all out on her own then? All Stan's fault was it?

[Jane]

I hadn't thought of that.

You could verify with Steve UK. I feel certain he'd know more than I.

[guest7363]

I think you summed it up with your use of the term 'further'.  Her character has already been damaged. However, she was arguably a victim in all this - not given an opportunity to hang around after trial but sent packing over the pond - out of the picture.  It's a pity Stan told her that the phone call from Nevill to Jeremy never existed (when it fact - it could not be proven either way).  He had no right to do that.

I thought it was In Australia in 1990 she met Canadian Glen Smerchanski?
I didnt think she went straight to Canada? I thought she did d some travelling first?  Then married in Essex in 1991?

[Caroline]

I thought it was In Australia in 1990 she met Canadian Glen Smerchanski?
I didnt think she went straight to Canada? I thought she did d some travelling first?  Then married in Essex in 1991?

You are right Justice.

[Jane]

I thought it was In Australia in 1990 she met Canadian Glen Smerchanski?
I didnt think she went straight to Canada? I thought she did d some travelling first?  Then married in Essex in 1991?

St Barnabas, Gt Tey.

[Steve_uk]

You could verify with Steve UK. I feel certain he'd know more than I.

Well I don't know very much. London is a big place and I never talked to her. I'm assuming she carried on teaching until the trial, after which the publicity made it hard for her to remain in her primary school position and she was redeployed to a different school within the ILEA(Inner London Education Authority). She continued to teach for a further two years, after which time she travelled the world as Reader mentioned, where she met her husband- to-be, Canadian Greg Smerchanski. She did not "scarper off to Canada" or other derogatory expressions I have read on this site, but decided as many young professionals do to take a break, have a year off, call it what you will. It's quite common these days to take a gap year after A Levels, let alone wait until you've left university and begun employment.

I have to say I don't know how Julie managed to hold down a career, have two children, juggle family and household responsibilities and still have time for the charity work she is reported to have engaged in in the locality. She must first and foremost have been a good teacher to make such a career progression, and I'm sure the hard work took her mind off the guilt feelings any normal person must have undergone after what she had experienced as a 21-year-old. It would be unchristian and churlish in the extreme not to have given her this new start, which she grasped with both hands, whilst never retracting her belief that Jeremy was responsible for the murders at White House Farm.

[guest7363]

You are right Justice.

Thanks Caroline and Jane, i didn't think she just up and went to Canada.

[guest7363]

Well I don't know very much. London is a big place and I never talked to her. I'm assuming she carried on teaching until the trial, after which the publicity made it hard for her to remain in her primary school position and she was redeployed to a different school within the ILEA(Inner London Education Authority). She continued to teach for a further two years, after which time she travelled the world as Reader mentioned, where she met her husband- to-be, Canadian Greg Smerchanski. She did not "scarper off to Canada" or other derogatory expressions I have read on this site, but decided as many young professionals do to take a break, have a year off, call it what you will. It's quite common these days to take a gap year after A Levels, let alone wait until you've left university and begun employment.

I have to say I don't know how Julie managed to hold down a career, have two children, juggle family and household responsibilities and still have time for the charity work she is reported to have engaged in in the locality. She must first and foremost have been a good teacher to make such a career progression, and I'm sure the hard work took her mind off the guilt feelings any normal person must have undergone after what she had experienced as a 21-year-old. It would be unchristian and churlish in the extreme not to have given her this new start, which she grasped with both hands, whilst never retracting her belief that Jeremy was responsible for the murders at White House Farm.

Excellant post Steve.

[Roch]

Never considered she could have figured that all out on her own then? All Stan's fault was it?

That's missing the point.  It was apparently not provable either way - even a former spokes-person for the family stated that on this forum.  But DS Stan Jones went round telling all the witnesses that it definitely didn't happen.  What effect do you think that had?

[Roch]

I thought it was In Australia in 1990 she met Canadian Glen Smerchanski?
I didnt think she went straight to Canada? I thought she did d some travelling first?  Then married in Essex in 1991?

Around the time of COLP? So did she up and off in '91 or later?

[Roch]

Well I don't know very much. London is a big place and I never talked to her. I'm assuming she carried on teaching until the trial, after which the publicity made it hard for her to remain in her primary school position and she was redeployed to a different school within the ILEA(Inner London Education Authority). She continued to teach for a further two years, after which time she travelled the world as Reader mentioned, where she met her husband- to-be, Canadian Greg Smerchanski. She did not "scarper off to Canada" or other derogatory expressions I have read on this site, but decided as many young professionals do to take a break, have a year off, call it what you will. It's quite common these days to take a gap year after A Levels, let alone wait until you've left university and begun employment.

I have to say I don't know how Julie managed to hold down a career, have two children, juggle family and household responsibilities and still have time for the charity work she is reported to have engaged in in the locality. She must first and foremost have been a good teacher to make such a career progression, and I'm sure the hard work took her mind off the guilt feelings any normal person must have undergone after what she had experienced as a 21-year-old. It would be unchristian and churlish in the extreme not to have given her this new start, which she grasped with both hands, whilst never retracting her belief that Jeremy was responsible for the murders at White House Farm.

Steve your post is well written.  A cynic might say, that after being cleaned and coached as a witness; after providing second-hand testimony from Ann Eaton & others; after being holed up for a year in police accommodation; after taking a cheque for 25K (a huge amount in 1986); and after posing in a basque for a salacious gutter-press article (very respectful to the dead victims), she finally cleared-off in the same year as COLP?

She could hardly retract her testimony, without landing herself in extremely hot water?  That's called self-preservation.   

[guest7363]

Around the time of COLP? So did she up and off in '91 or later?

I think it was a month after the wedding in Essex 1991 July they then had a blessing in Canada?  So I would imagine it was then?

[Steve_uk]

That's missing the point.  It was apparently not provable either way - even a former spokes-person for the family stated that on this forum.  But DS Stan Jones went round telling all the witnesses that it definitely didn't happen.  What effect do you think that had?

Could somebody(Caroline) deal once and for all with the allegations that the Police merged Jeremy's call and Nevill's purported call into one and whether the claim that a car was dispatched to White House Farm before Jeremy made his call has any veracity?  http://poppymeze.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/jeremy-bamber-police-dispatch-car.html

[Roch]

Could somebody(Caroline) deal once and for all with the allegations that the Police merged Jeremy's call and Nevill's purported call into one and whether the claim that a car was dispatched to White House Farm before Jeremy made his call has any veracity?  http://poppymeze.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/jeremy-bamber-police-dispatch-car.html

Steve - that's not the point I was making.  That's a separate issue. I'm referring to the alleged call from Nevill to Jeremy.