Standard Chelmsford police phone call procedure in 1985.

[Adam]

Bamber's own video below says-

Bonnet was working at HQ Springfield in Chelmsford.

West was working at Chelmsford police station.

So the process seems straight forward:

West received Bamber's call. Wrote down the details. Then passed the details onto Bonnet by telephone. 

Bonnet then wrote down the details given to him by West

The conversation between West & Bonnet was the period when Bamber was on hold for several minutes.

Bonnet said to West he was sending  police officers from Witham to WHF.

West reconnected with Bamber and told him to go to WHF.


Clarification questions here are

Was it standard practice for anyone telephoning Chelmsford police to be answered  by an officer of West's  rank ?

Was it standard practice for an officer of West's rank to ring through the details of telephone serious incident calls to an officer of Bonnet's rank ?

Was it standard practice for both Bonnet & West to write separate logs.  West of what Bamber told him. Bonnet of what West relayed to him ?

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I assume the answers are yes. Then this is what happened.

I have  never read anything from the CT saying what West and Bonnet say they did was not standard practice by Chelmsford police in 1985.

In today's society, big organisations have switchboard operators who answer calls from the public and then transfer to the correct person. Or put the person on hold while they or get information. Rather like West did with Bamber.

A call to the police where guns are mentioned would result in details being written down in call logs.  By both Bonnet and West.

 https://youtu.be/Wu6L4Kvql9s

[Adam]

The CT video says it was Nevill who got through to Bonnet. Although Bonnet says his log is from the call he received from West.

If it was standard practice for West to transfer calls from the public to officers such as Bonnet, I can't see where the CT are coming from. Must just be more properganda.

[Adam]

It seems the CT are saying both Nevill and Bamber not only got through to different Chelmsford police officers, but the officers were based in different buildings.

Bonnet at HQ Springfield in Chelmsford. West at Chelmsford police station.

Were both Bonnet and West answering calls from the public that night ?

If it was just West who was answering calls from the public that night, then the issue is closed.  As Bonnet couldn't have then received a call from Nevill.

[Adam]

Must admit it is surprising that there were two police buildings open to receive calls from the public at 3.00am.

It was Tuesday morning in Chelmsford, not a Saturday night in Brooklyn.

Would have thought the operators at Chelmsford police station could deal with most calls from the public. Anything more serious, which involved guns would be forwarded onto HQ in Chelmsfield. Which is what West said he did.

[Reader]

Bonnett said to West he was sending  police officers from Witham to WHF.

Is there any evidence of that?

Bonnett was employed to handle emergency calls. Members of the public couldn't get straight through to Bonnett.

At the time, Chelmsford police station was manned to take non-emergency calls at all times. Pc West was on duty for that purpose, and could be contacted directly by dialling the listed number for Chelmsford police station. Pc West didn't say that he was the only person answering such calls.

[Adam]

Is there any evidence of that?

Bonnett was employed to handle emergency calls. Members of the public couldn't get straight through to Bonnett.

At the time, Chelmsford police station was manned to take non-emergency calls at all times. Pc West was on duty for that purpose, and could be contacted directly by dialling the listed number for Chelmsford police station. Pc West didn't say that he was the only person answering such calls.

Bamber said he was told by West to meet the police at WHF. Which is what happened. So it is clear Bonnet told West what was going to happen.

So how did Nevill get through to Bonnet if members of the public couldn't get through to him ?

PC West was taking 'non emergency' calls from the public. Which 99% of the calls would be. The exception being Bamber's call which West considered an emergency & passed onto Bonnet.

Whether West was the only officer on duty is not an issue. The fact is West was the one who took Bamber's call.

The Nevill calling the police claim is going to have to be closed. Not that it was ever open.

[Bill Robertson]

The CT video says it was Nevill who got through to Bonnet.

I do not hear this stated anywhere on that video. Please provide the time on the video where it says this as I fear I may be going deaf.

[Adam]

I do not hear this stated anywhere on that video. Please provide the time on the video where it says this as I fear I may be going deaf.

On the 1 minute mark. Nevill called the police, the call was taken by Malcolm Bonnet.

[Adam]

This issue is now closed.

Reader confirmed Bonnet was not taking calls from the public that night. So impossible for Nevill to have got through to him, as claimed by the CT.

[Reader]

It was, of course, possible for Nevill to call Pc West, who then called Bonnett (note that Bonnett has a double letter t in his name).

[Adam]

It was, of course, possible for Nevill to call Pc West, who then called Bonnett (note that Bonnett has a double letter t in his name).

The CT are saying Nevill called Bonnett. They can't change this.

Wouldn't West & Bonnett have two call logs each. West from calls from Nevill & Bamber. Bonnett from two calls he received from West. 

[Reader]

Yes, there would be additional logs. If you think the police never withhold logs, produce Pc Saxby's log that he stated he wrote while at the scene.

[Caroline]

Yes, there would be additional logs. If you think the police never withhold logs, produce Pc Saxby's log that he stated he wrote while at the scene.

You have to invent more logs for this scenario.

Did Saxby write that there was a conversation going on between the TFG and someone inside the house?

[Adam]

Yes, there would be additional logs. If you think the police never withhold logs, produce Pc Saxby's log that he stated he wrote while at the scene.

Ok. So the CT are wrong. Nevill phoned West, not Bonnett.

Bonnett's call log the CT say is a record of Nevill's call, was West's call to Bonnett. 

Both West, Bonnett & the rest of EP have hidden the call log of Nevill's call. Which could have only been to West as Bonnett was not taking calls from the public.

[Adam]

The CT is now in a situation where they have no evidence of Nevill's call.

They now have to say the call logs of Nevill's call are part of the alleged withheld documents.