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Offline notsure

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2017, 01:04:PM »
I was amused to read, on another forum, where a move seems to be afoot to spring Jeremy from his confinement, how the jury had, allegedly been mislead by RWB who said, on oath, that he wouldn't benefit financially from Jeremy's conviction and revealed that Jeremy had told him "I could easily kill my parents"!!!! We appear to be asked to put aside the fact that Jeremy uttered those words to focus on the fact that RWB -NOT my favourite character but I can't hold that against him- didn't tell the truth when he said he wouldn't benefit. Well, YES, he did! He gave a truthful answer to the question he was asked and SURELY the main thrust WASN'T about whether or not he'd benefit, but what Jeremy said. THIS has been blurred.

There have been other incidents since I've been on this forum -many of them scurrilous and totally untrue slurs on Sheila- to divert attention from the known facts. Shove in some frills, get people to concentrate on those and the facts get forgotten.overlooked/hidden. The fact remains that 31 years ago a jury convicted Jeremy and despite numerous attempts to con money from his family/obtain his release, it's clearly not considered that he's safe to be allowed back into the public -his trial judge said, at the time, it remained to be seen- and attempts by those here to draw every agency, in the Kingdom, into a mass conspiracy is just another attempt at blurring the truth.

what forum Jane would like to look. Even I don't think that would happen but would like to read it.

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2017, 01:08:PM »
well it seems we all have someone on ignore ! What does that tell us about our forum, pretty sad really.

However I feel David does post some good stuff and always tries to back his posts with sources/ evidence/etc I find them interesting.

Notsure, this forum is a microcosm of the wider world. We probably pass the time of day with everyone we meet, but we don't necessarily have any desire to get into conversation with them -or they, with us. My own belief is that David is capable of manipulating what he posts to enforce the point he'e trying to make. Some here will agree with that conclusion. Some won't.

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2017, 01:09:PM »
what forum Jane would like to look. Even I don't think that would happen but would like to read it.

It's here Notsure but most of the posters don't know much about the case and have some VERY strange ideas.

http://www.injusticeanywhereforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=2931
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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2017, 01:10:PM »
I've got David on ignore too  ;D ;D  Some people may be fooled but I am not. The game was given away when the alleged letter from SH was posted (cira 2005) and no source given.  ::)

Me too!
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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2017, 01:31:PM »
well it seems we all have someone on ignore ! What does that tell us about our forum, pretty sad really.

However I feel David does post some good stuff and always tries to back his posts with sources/ evidence/etc I find them interesting.
Ha Ha, it's easy Notsure makes life better, I have two annoying people on ignore, myself and xxxxx

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2017, 01:33:PM »
Ha Ha, it's easy Notsure makes life better, I have two annoying people on ignore, myself and xxxxx
Spare a thought for the poor mod who isn't able to put anyone on ignore  :'( :'(

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2017, 01:34:PM »
Ha Ha, it's easy Notsure makes life better, I have two annoying people on ignore, myself and xxxxx
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2017, 01:38:PM »
Spare a thought for the poor mod who isn't able to put anyone on ignore  :'( :'(
Maggie you are a gem x. I feel I could help you out sometimes but I would ban myself lol

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2017, 01:46:PM »
Maggie you are a gem x. I feel I could help you out sometimes but I would ban myself lol
You are always very kind justice, I'm far from perfect but I do my best.  :)

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2017, 01:51:PM »
Spare a thought for the poor mod who isn't able to put anyone on ignore  :'( :'(

Actually, you can  ;D
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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2017, 01:56:PM »
Actually, you can  ;D
Can I?  Don't tempt me!!   ;D ;D

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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2017, 01:59:PM »
Can I?  Don't tempt me!!   ;D ;D

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2017, 04:59:PM »
I was amused to read, on another forum, where a move seems to be afoot to spring Jeremy from his confinement, how the jury had, allegedly been mislead by RWB who said, on oath, that he wouldn't benefit financially from Jeremy's conviction and revealed that Jeremy had told him "I could easily kill my parents"!!!! We appear to be asked to put aside the fact that Jeremy uttered those words to focus on the fact that RWB -NOT my favourite character but I can't hold that against him- didn't tell the truth when he said he wouldn't benefit. Well, YES, he did! He gave a truthful answer to the question he was asked and SURELY the main thrust WASN'T about whether or not he'd benefit, but what Jeremy said. THIS has been blurred.

There have been other incidents since I've been on this forum -many of them scurrilous and totally untrue slurs on Sheila- to divert attention from the known facts. Shove in some frills, get people to concentrate on those and the facts get forgotten.overlooked/hidden. The fact remains that 31 years ago a jury convicted Jeremy and despite numerous attempts to con money from his family/obtain his release, it's clearly not considered that he's safe to be allowed back into the public -his trial judge said, at the time, it remained to be seen- and attempts by those here to draw every agency, in the Kingdom, into a mass conspiracy is just another attempt at blurring the truth.

The biggest irony here is Jane has done exactly what she has accused others of doing. Being a "wordsmith" and Blurring the truth.

In order to let people know one is not making stuff up, everyone should cite explicit textual evidence to support their opinions or statements.

I can cite several pieces of documented evidence to support my claim over on IA. The evidence speaks for itself. 
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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2017, 05:10:PM »
Spare a thought for the poor mod who isn't able to put anyone on ignore  :'( :'(

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Re: Wordsmiths And How Truth Becomes Hidden Or Manipulated
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2017, 05:35:PM »
well it seems we all have someone on ignore ! What does that tell us about our forum, pretty sad really.

However I feel David does post some good stuff and always tries to back his posts with sources/ evidence/etc I find them interesting.

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