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« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2017, 08:16:PM »
This article suggests he was still benefiting financially from the caravan park following his conviction.

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/bamber_slammed_after_claim_is_struck_out_1_66197

MASS murderer Jeremy Bamber was last night accused of "harassing" surviving members of the family he decimated after he failed in a £326,000 High Court damages claim against them.

Bamber, who until recently owned 7.5% of the shares in successful family-run holiday park company, Osea Road Camp Sites Ltd, argued that while members of his family have made money from the venture, he had been "unfairly" done out of his rightful share of the profits.

However, Mr Justice Pumfrey, sitting at London's High Court yesterday, upheld the family's application to have his claim struck out - saying it was "difficult to see how any equitable obligation could survive the murder of his adoptive parents".

Last night his adoptive aunt, Pamela Boutflour, described the court case as "just another harassment" by the killer.

Bespectacled Bamber, 43, dressed in a blue sweatshirt, remained impassive in the dock as the judge gave his ruling, and will not appeal the decision.

He said he would accept Mr Justice Pumfrey's "wise judgement of the law". He was also ordered to pay £16,250 in legal costs bills.

Bamber was suing his maternal adoptive aunt, Pamela Boutflour, her husband Robert and their children, David Boutflour and Ann Eaton, who argued his claim was "unmeritorious to the point of being absurd".

Bamber was convicted in October 1986 of the murders of his adoptive mother June and father Nevill, both 61, sister Sheila Caffell, 27, and her twin six-year-old sons, Nicholas and Daniel, at their farmhouse home in Tolleshunt D'Arcy.

He is serving five life sentences and the then Home Secretary, Michael Howard, ruled in 1994 that he should never be released. However, Bamber still protests his innocence.

Barrister for the family, Andrew De La Rosa, said the dismissal of an appeal against the convictions in 2002 prompted Bamber to launch a rash of litigation from his prison cell against the surviving members of his adoptive family.

He made a £1.27 million claim over the will of his maternal grandmother, Mabel Speakman, but that was struck out earlier this year.

He also made a libel claim against Ann Eaton over comments she made on a television programme which Mr De La Rosa said had now "lapsed".

Bamber's claim in relation to Osea Road Camp Sites Ltd, a company based in Goldhanger Road, Maldon and set up by his grandparents, was that he should be entitled to £326,000 in "financial remuneration", along with interest going back to 1985.

Although he has recently sold his shares to cover an £18,000 lawyers' bill, he argued he had been "unfairly prejudiced".

He claimed family members had been paid large sums as directors whilst, at the same time, the company has paid no dividends so that he has not received a penny.

Bamber told the judge it was understandable that his co-owners of the company would not want to have anything to do with him "because of the nature of my convictions'.

But they could have contacted him in prison through solicitors or accountants as, he claimed, they were bound to do because he was a shareholder.

He accepted the sum of money he was claiming might be pitched too high, but argued that he must be entitled to some remuneration from the company's profits and that his claim should not be "shut out on a technicality'.

But Mr Justice Pumfrey ruled the claim should not be allowed to proceed to the next stage.

Bamber also denied harassing the family and said he had no wish to cause distress.

"I have never said anything bad about them in the press, or written to them or harassed them,' he said.

Yesterday Mrs Boutflour, who lives in Wix, said: "This is just another harassment by Jeremy Bamber, yet again. He continually harasses the family.

"We are very relieved that the judge made the right judgement, but it just goes on and on."
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« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2017, 08:41:PM »
Yes so her hand fitted in the letter box.

Bamber told the police he had put his hand through the letter box. It wasn't Julie who broke in per se. He told police he had done it before to get in.
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« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2017, 08:52:PM »
Reference to him stage managing the crime scene is here Jackie  http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

130. The appellant admitted committing the burglary with Julie Mugford at the Osea Road Caravan Site on 23/24 March 1985 when £980 had been stolen. He said he had done it to prove that the security at the site was poor.

Following his arrest for the burglary:

136. The appellant was bailed from the police station on 13 September 1985. Some days later he went on holiday to the South of France. On his return to this country on 29 September he was re-arrested and charged with the five murders.

with not a care in the world..

138. He admitted that the burglary at the caravan site had been motivated by greed and that by breaking a window and scattering papers around he had deliberately sought to give the impression it had been committed by somebody other than him.
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« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2017, 09:00:PM »
http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

118. James Richards, another student from Goldsmiths College who had met the appellant through Julie Mugford, heard him talk of his parents in about February 1985. He claimed they kept him short of money and that his mother was a religious freak. He said, "I f**king hate my parents".

119. In about March 1985, in the context of a discussion about the security at the Osea Road caravan site, the appellant told his uncle Robert Boutflour, "… I could kill anybody … I could easily kill my parents".

139. Apart from Julie Mugford the appellant suggested that other witnesses had told lies about him during the trial. They included Mrs Mugford, James Richards, Dorothy Foakes and Robert Boutflour.

140. He admitted enjoying the good things in life – restaurants, wine bars, travelling, fast cars etc. In respect of the conversation with PC Myall about the Porsche car, the appellant said he was in fact referring to a kit model car made by a company called Covan Turbo who produced vehicles looking very similar to Porsche vehicles but at a cost of between £1-2,000.
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« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2017, 10:10:PM »
Why would officer,collar number 1990 make 2 separate records of the one call ?

Neville Bamber-phoned @ 03.26-car CA7 dispatched,arriving at WHF @ 03.48. NB states-" my guns ".

Jeremy Bamber-phoned @03.36-car CA5 dispatched,arriving at WHF @ 04.23.JB states -" the gun ".

At 03.56 GPO had reported the phone at WHF as being off the hook.

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« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2017, 12:16:AM »
Bamber told the police he had put his hand through the letter box. It wasn't Julie who broke in per se. He told police he had done it before to get in.

Bamber was completely responsible for the caravan park robbery.
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« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2017, 07:33:AM »
Reference to him stage managing the crime scene is here Jackie  http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

130. The appellant admitted committing the burglary with Julie Mugford at the Osea Road Caravan Site on 23/24 March 1985 when £980 had been stolen. He said he had done it to prove that the security at the site was poor.

Following his arrest for the burglary:

136. The appellant was bailed from the police station on 13 September 1985. Some days later he went on holiday to the South of France. On his return to this country on 29 September he was re-arrested and charged with the five murders.

with not a care in the world..

138. He admitted that the burglary at the caravan site had been motivated by greed and that by breaking a window and scattering papers around he had deliberately sought to give the impression it had been committed by somebody other than him.
Just as he went on to do at WHF!

Violent Psychopaths, Crime & Society http://neuroinstincts.com/violent-psychopaths-and-crime/

"However, there are a subset of individuals with psychopathy that are violent . When they commit crimes , the acts tend to be extremely vile, callous, and cold with unimaginable cruelty. Sometimes society is quick to assume, "that person is absolutely crazy." (Psychotic)

And that is exactly what supporters of Jeremy Bamber have done. They will have been taken in by his charm and the image he attempts to portray to his unsuspecting victims ("Psychopaths are easy to like). They dismiss his behaviors preferring to blame his sister. These supporters have been quick to wrongly assume the person responsible is psychotic as opposed to realising the person responsible suffers from psychopathy.

"Most of their crimes are considered 'instrumental' meaning they are committing the act for a specific reason. It tends to be planned, purposeful and calculated.

As is evidenced by the caravan burglary and the murders.

"Like most psychopathic individuals who hurt others, they lie, try to control the situation and slander or paint the innocent victim in a negative light.

"Despite pain and irreparable damage caused, they continue to maintain in their mind the 'nice guy, good person image
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« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2017, 08:11:AM »
118. James Richards, another student from Goldsmiths College who had met the appellant through Julie Mugford, heard him talk of his parents in about February 1985. He claimed they kept him short of money and that his mother was a religious freak. He said, "I f**king hate my parents".

119. In about March 1985, in the context of a discussion about the security at the Osea Road caravan site, the appellant told his uncle Robert Boutflour, "… I could kill anybody … I could easily kill my parents".

139. Apart from Julie Mugford the appellant suggested that other witnesses had told lies about him during the trial. They included Mrs Mugford, James Richards, Dorothy Foakes and Robert Boutflour.

140. He admitted enjoying the good things in life – restaurants, wine bars, travelling, fast cars etc. In respect of the conversation with PC Myall about the Porsche car, the appellant said he was in fact referring to a kit model car made by a company called Covan Turbo who produced vehicles looking very similar to Porsche vehicles but at a cost of between £1-2,000.

Fact

Robert Boutflour proved an unreliable witness after telling lies in court about Sheila and guns

His greed to get his hands on the Bamber fortunes was so blatant he was prepared to mislead the jury
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« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2017, 08:15:AM »
Reference to him stage managing the crime scene is here Jackie  http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

130. The appellant admitted committing the burglary with Julie Mugford at the Osea Road Caravan Site on 23/24 March 1985 when £980 had been stolen. He said he had done it to prove that the security at the site was poor.

Following his arrest for the burglary:

136. The appellant was bailed from the police station on 13 September 1985. Some days later he went on holiday to the South of France. On his return to this country on 29 September he was re-arrested and charged with the five murders.

with not a care in the world..

138. He admitted that the burglary at the caravan site had been motivated by greed and that by breaking a window and scattering papers around he had deliberately sought to give the impression it had been committed by somebody other than him.

Once again through your many hours on the forum you are trying to mislead members

You stated Jeremy DID stage manage the crime scene
FACT
You do not know
Like most of your posts you continue to state speculation as fact
We were not discussing the burglary before
It's a ridiculous way to carry on
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« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2017, 08:20:AM »
Just as he went on to do at WHF!

Violent Psychopaths, Crime & Society http://neuroinstincts.com/violent-psychopaths-and-crime/

"However, there are a subset of individuals with psychopathy that are violent . When they commit crimes , the acts tend to be extremely vile, callous, and cold with unimaginable cruelty. Sometimes society is quick to assume, "that person is absolutely crazy." (Psychotic)

And that is exactly what supporters of Jeremy Bamber have done. They will have been taken in by his charm and the image he attempts to portray to his unsuspecting victims ("Psychopaths are easy to like). They dismiss his behaviors preferring to blame his sister. These supporters have been quick to wrongly assume the person responsible is psychotic as opposed to realising the person responsible suffers from psychopathy.

"Most of their crimes are considered 'instrumental' meaning they are committing the act for a specific reason. It tends to be planned, purposeful and calculated.

As is evidenced by the caravan burglary and the murders.

"Like most psychopathic individuals who hurt others, they lie, try to control the situation and slander or paint the innocent victim in a negative light.

"Despite pain and irreparable damage caused, they continue to maintain in their mind the 'nice guy, good person image


FACT

You have no idea if Jeremy is a psychopath

Pure speculation from someone who could not even recognise someone who was a sexual deviant and murderer

Your description of Simon Hall was your gorgus hubby

Stop putting up posts that are pure speculation as they are fact
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« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2017, 08:42:AM »

FACT

You have no idea if Jeremy is a psychopath

Pure speculation from someone who could not even recognise someone who was a sexual deviant and murderer

Your description of Simon Hall was your gorgus hubby

Stop putting up posts that are pure speculation as they are fact

Maybe you are forgetting what Jeremy's defence team uncovered at the time of his trial. What did the forensic psychologist state about Jeremy's personality?

My position then is no different to your position now Jackie. I was not aware of psychopathy. I made a mistake; just as you are doing now.

You appear unable to see your own projections and your personal comments about SH support this assertion. By posting his full name on the board and referring to him as gorgus, you are attempting to keep him alive and I suspect your motive for doing so is malicious. But what you are actually doing Jackie is showing it is you who is obsessed.
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Re: The caravan park burglary/Jeremy's dishonesty/The fake call from NB
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2017, 10:41:AM »
Once again through your many hours on the forum you are trying to mislead members

You stated Jeremy DID stage manage the crime scene
FACT
You do not know
Like most of your posts you continue to state speculation as fact
We were not discussing the burglary before
It's a ridiculous way to carry on





It doesn't mislead me,Jackie. All these posts do is further their desperation in trying to prove themselves right.Sad really.