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« Reply #105 on: January 11, 2017, 04:05:PM »
He'd just been awarded D-cat status prior to us learning of the Zenith burglary in November 2012 but was still in closed prison conditions at this point. Kingston prison were closing down, so rather than move him to another closed prison, they moved him to open conditions earlier than expected. He'd lied in his Guittard application about having support from family members and this along with numerous other things caught up with him. He blogged about his journey from Portsmouth to Hollesley Bay. And I think his experiences during the move brought the murder back home to him. He was driven past the village of Capel, as well as being placed in the cell next to the one he was in when on remand (when they stopped off in Chelmsford).

Initially as you know I posted as Truthseeker because I was tired of the constant abuse and attacks I was being subjected to, as well as the malicious allegations being made about me at the time. Plus I had fears me posting here would get back to SH (Which of course it did) but I couldn't sit back and watch the farce continue any longer, especially as his brother was manufacturing yet more rubbish.

I'm grateful to many of you here for the support and indeed understanding showed, as it made the experience a little easier, then and now.

Simon Hall wrote this on his website in 2005. It was an interesting read IMO.
Trying to blank out his confession from my mind to prevent hindsight bias, I found it rather uninspiring.

Stephanie, It would be interesting to hear your views on it with the benefit of hindsight.

Hello,
As a result of all the media coverage of this case recently, I feel as if I have to say a few things once again.

First, I am causing quite a stir at the moment it seems. Well, actually, I'm not. It isn't me talking on Look East and it isn't me printing controversial articles in the newspapers is it? All I have done is ask the people who believe in me to set up a website on my behalf to show this miscarriage of justice for what it is.

It is not my intention to hurt anyone and it is not my intention to make anyone's life hard or unbearable in any way. It is my intention however, to categorically state that I did not kill Mrs Albert, to raise awareness of my situation and to find help in getting my case back into court.

I did not want to get personal and I have done my utmost to avoid treading on anyone's toes or causing unnecessary pain for Mrs Albert's family, but after a recent article in the Evening Star and East Anglian Daily Times, I do have to stick up for myself.

I would like to question people who have not actually read the website.
If they haven't read it all, how can they say it's a load of nonsense? To me, that says they do not want to read it because they do not want to believe that I am an innocent man.

I can understand Mrs Albert's family not wanting to believe it because it would mean that their pain must continue, especially after I am acquitted, but the fact remains that I am an innocent man and I will more than likely be acquitted.

My confidence of this has been boosted after hearing recent news concerning new evidence, but I cannot go into this at present.

I would also like to ask why having a criminal record for fighting can reassure someone that I am guilty of murder? Yes I was sentenced to 17 months youth custody for ABH and wounding when I was 19, but does this mean I am a killer? I had fist fights with men of equal size and age, which I am not proud of at all, but that was in January 1997 and going to prison made me realise that I was foolish and I grew up very quickly as a result. Now I am supposed to have committed first degree murder? Sorry, wrong M.O., plus I am sure a lot of 19 year old lads would have come to blows with any man who stole their wallet and money. It is not the right thing to do, I know that, but I detest thieves, which is a touch ironic considering the prosecution's motive for this murder was burglary!
It is these attitudes that convict innocent men.

I do not want to be all over the news, but I have no choice. What do you think happens to people in prison who have been convicted of such heinous crimes? There are special wings for people like that, but I refuse to go on them at a detriment to my safety. I walk my head held high because I have nothing to hide.

I have a few questions.

Why am I getting so much coverage? How many murder convictions have there been on the news recently? Why don't they get this much attention? It is because something is not right and a lot of people are starting to realise it. It's that simple.

A serving police officer in Suffolk has allegedly posted a message of support on this website, to which Suffolk Police cannot confirm or deny, is legitimate. Surely after this much time they know the email's origin yet they still cannot deny it? Well they are hardly likely to confirm it are they? But if they are still investigating after all this time, it just goes to show how inept and how rubbish they actually are.

A member of Mrs Albert's family openly says she has her doubts since the trial where she thought I was guilty. Is that normal?

Plus a forensic expert raising his doubts and offering to conduct experiments to test his own theory, what about that?

But it seems that people who weren't even at the trial have opinions as to me being guilty. People who claim to know me and my family, leaving messages on this website to say they think I'm guilty. These were removed because you did not leave a valid name if any and it therefore means nothing to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, don't get me wrong. I mean how many people are convinced the moon landings were fake or have been abducted by aliens? They cannot be moved on that.

If you think I am guilty, please tell me. Use the guestbook or private email to do so, but would you be so kind as to tell me why you think I am guilty especially after reading this site. Tell me who you are or I'll ignore it and treat it as a waste of time.

Just so when I get out I don't buy you a beer as you tell me:

Thank you for your time,
Simon Hall

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« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2017, 04:06:PM »
I totally agree, Stephanie has shown courage, it's not easy to admit you were wrong/mistaken/duped at any time but to admit it on a public forum takes a particular kind of strength which deserves acknowledgment.

Thanks Maggie, appreciated!
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« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2017, 04:16:PM »
I have to agree Maggie it takes courage and a better person to admit when they have got it wrong/mistaken/duped.  Most of all I have found Steph's posts fascinating and helpful, having gone through an incident ourselves as a family with a sex offender where we was duped, I think Steph is doing the right thing in talking about it and having a forum like this and such good friends as yourself Caroline, Jane, Susie and NGB helped me through a very difficult part of my life.

Thanks Justice. Appreciated.

There's no reason for Steph not to speak out about what she experienced. Hopefully, those experiences will help others -although that's their responsibility- but it will certainly help Steph who was in NO way responsible for the actions of SH. Her only 'crime' -for those who are looking for one- was believing a practiced and manipulative liar. I'm NOT of the school that believes 'things' are best kept secret.

I agree with this Jane entirely, as I do with much of what you post. I've learned an awful lot from others here and continue to do so.


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« Reply #108 on: January 11, 2017, 04:22:PM »
Simon Hall wrote this on his website in 2005. It was an interesting read IMO.
Trying to blank out his confession from my mind to prevent hindsight bias, I found it rather uninspiring.

Stephanie, It would be interesting to hear your views on it with the benefit of hindsight.

Hello,
As a result of all the media coverage of this case recently, I feel as if I have to say a few things once again.

First, I am causing quite a stir at the moment it seems. Well, actually, I'm not. It isn't me talking on Look East and it isn't me printing controversial articles in the newspapers is it? All I have done is ask the people who believe in me to set up a website on my behalf to show this miscarriage of justice for what it is.

It is not my intention to hurt anyone and it is not my intention to make anyone's life hard or unbearable in any way. It is my intention however, to categorically state that I did not kill Mrs Albert, to raise awareness of my situation and to find help in getting my case back into court.

I did not want to get personal and I have done my utmost to avoid treading on anyone's toes or causing unnecessary pain for Mrs Albert's family, but after a recent article in the Evening Star and East Anglian Daily Times, I do have to stick up for myself.

I would like to question people who have not actually read the website.
If they haven't read it all, how can they say it's a load of nonsense? To me, that says they do not want to read it because they do not want to believe that I am an innocent man.

I can understand Mrs Albert's family not wanting to believe it because it would mean that their pain must continue, especially after I am acquitted, but the fact remains that I am an innocent man and I will more than likely be acquitted.

My confidence of this has been boosted after hearing recent news concerning new evidence, but I cannot go into this at present.

I would also like to ask why having a criminal record for fighting can reassure someone that I am guilty of murder? Yes I was sentenced to 17 months youth custody for ABH and wounding when I was 19, but does this mean I am a killer? I had fist fights with men of equal size and age, which I am not proud of at all, but that was in January 1997 and going to prison made me realise that I was foolish and I grew up very quickly as a result. Now I am supposed to have committed first degree murder? Sorry, wrong M.O., plus I am sure a lot of 19 year old lads would have come to blows with any man who stole their wallet and money. It is not the right thing to do, I know that, but I detest thieves, which is a touch ironic considering the prosecution's motive for this murder was burglary!
It is these attitudes that convict innocent men.

I do not want to be all over the news, but I have no choice. What do you think happens to people in prison who have been convicted of such heinous crimes? There are special wings for people like that, but I refuse to go on them at a detriment to my safety. I walk my head held high because I have nothing to hide.

I have a few questions.

Why am I getting so much coverage? How many murder convictions have there been on the news recently? Why don't they get this much attention? It is because something is not right and a lot of people are starting to realise it. It's that simple.

A serving police officer in Suffolk has allegedly posted a message of support on this website, to which Suffolk Police cannot confirm or deny, is legitimate. Surely after this much time they know the email's origin yet they still cannot deny it? Well they are hardly likely to confirm it are they? But if they are still investigating after all this time, it just goes to show how inept and how rubbish they actually are.

A member of Mrs Albert's family openly says she has her doubts since the trial where she thought I was guilty. Is that normal?

Plus a forensic expert raising his doubts and offering to conduct experiments to test his own theory, what about that?

But it seems that people who weren't even at the trial have opinions as to me being guilty. People who claim to know me and my family, leaving messages on this website to say they think I'm guilty. These were removed because you did not leave a valid name if any and it therefore means nothing to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, don't get me wrong. I mean how many people are convinced the moon landings were fake or have been abducted by aliens? They cannot be moved on that.

If you think I am guilty, please tell me. Use the guestbook or private email to do so, but would you be so kind as to tell me why you think I am guilty especially after reading this site. Tell me who you are or I'll ignore it and treat it as a waste of time.

Just so when I get out I don't buy you a beer as you tell me:

Thank you for your time,
Simon Hall


Wrong thread David. Is there a link to the above?
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« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2017, 04:38:PM »
I think until you have known someone like that, it's difficult to grasp what a psychopath is.

I agree Caroline. There are still times when I veer between BDP/ASPD as there is a thin line but have accepted that's just how it is.
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« Reply #110 on: January 11, 2017, 04:43:PM »
im sorry but qustioning things is  1 of my bad habbits i cant help having a cyncle nature.

One day you question things then another day you question posters on why they are questioning things. Do you see the double standard there?
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« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2017, 04:52:PM »
Simon Hall wrote this on his website in 2005. It was an interesting read IMO.
Trying to blank out his confession from my mind to prevent hindsight bias, I found it rather uninspiring.

Stephanie, It would be interesting to hear your views on it with the benefit of hindsight.

What do you think of it David and how does it compare to the Bamber case?

Was this from his families website or Stephanie Bon's?
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« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2017, 07:26:PM »
Simon Hall wrote this on his website in 2005. It was an interesting read IMO.
Trying to blank out his confession from my mind to prevent hindsight bias, I found it rather uninspiring.

Stephanie, It would be interesting to hear your views on it with the benefit of hindsight.

Hello,
As a result of all the media coverage of this case recently, I feel as if I have to say a few things once again.

First, I am causing quite a stir at the moment it seems. Well, actually, I'm not. It isn't me talking on Look East and it isn't me printing controversial articles in the newspapers is it? All I have done is ask the people who believe in me to set up a website on my behalf to show this miscarriage of justice for what it is.

It is not my intention to hurt anyone and it is not my intention to make anyone's life hard or unbearable in any way. It is my intention however, to categorically state that I did not kill Mrs Albert, to raise awareness of my situation and to find help in getting my case back into court.

I did not want to get personal and I have done my utmost to avoid treading on anyone's toes or causing unnecessary pain for Mrs Albert's family, but after a recent article in the Evening Star and East Anglian Daily Times, I do have to stick up for myself.

I would like to question people who have not actually read the website.
If they haven't read it all, how can they say it's a load of nonsense? To me, that says they do not want to read it because they do not want to believe that I am an innocent man.

I can understand Mrs Albert's family not wanting to believe it because it would mean that their pain must continue, especially after I am acquitted, but the fact remains that I am an innocent man and I will more than likely be acquitted.

My confidence of this has been boosted after hearing recent news concerning new evidence, but I cannot go into this at present.

I would also like to ask why having a criminal record for fighting can reassure someone that I am guilty of murder? Yes I was sentenced to 17 months youth custody for ABH and wounding when I was 19, but does this mean I am a killer? I had fist fights with men of equal size and age, which I am not proud of at all, but that was in January 1997 and going to prison made me realise that I was foolish and I grew up very quickly as a result. Now I am supposed to have committed first degree murder? Sorry, wrong M.O., plus I am sure a lot of 19 year old lads would have come to blows with any man who stole their wallet and money. It is not the right thing to do, I know that, but I detest thieves, which is a touch ironic considering the prosecution's motive for this murder was burglary!
It is these attitudes that convict innocent men.

I do not want to be all over the news, but I have no choice. What do you think happens to people in prison who have been convicted of such heinous crimes? There are special wings for people like that, but I refuse to go on them at a detriment to my safety. I walk my head held high because I have nothing to hide.

I have a few questions.

Why am I getting so much coverage? How many murder convictions have there been on the news recently? Why don't they get this much attention? It is because something is not right and a lot of people are starting to realise it. It's that simple.

A serving police officer in Suffolk has allegedly posted a message of support on this website, to which Suffolk Police cannot confirm or deny, is legitimate. Surely after this much time they know the email's origin yet they still cannot deny it? Well they are hardly likely to confirm it are they? But if they are still investigating after all this time, it just goes to show how inept and how rubbish they actually are.

A member of Mrs Albert's family openly says she has her doubts since the trial where she thought I was guilty. Is that normal?

Plus a forensic expert raising his doubts and offering to conduct experiments to test his own theory, what about that?

But it seems that people who weren't even at the trial have opinions as to me being guilty. People who claim to know me and my family, leaving messages on this website to say they think I'm guilty. These were removed because you did not leave a valid name if any and it therefore means nothing to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, don't get me wrong. I mean how many people are convinced the moon landings were fake or have been abducted by aliens? They cannot be moved on that.

If you think I am guilty, please tell me. Use the guestbook or private email to do so, but would you be so kind as to tell me why you think I am guilty especially after reading this site. Tell me who you are or I'll ignore it and treat it as a waste of time.

Just so when I get out I don't buy you a beer as you tell me:

Thank you for your time,
Simon Hall

It appears to be very similar to Jeremy Bamber's protestations of innocence, if not a carbon copy.

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« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2017, 07:31:PM »
It appears to be very similar to Jeremy Bamber's protestations of innocence, if not a carbon copy.

And snippets of his supporters assertions and those made by Jackie  ::)
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« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2017, 08:52:PM »
And snippets of his supporters assertions and those made by Jackie  ::)

I remain a staunch support and without a shadow of doubt believe Jeremy conviction to be unsafe
and no I have never ever considered having a relationship with Jeremy or anyone else in prison
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« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2017, 08:55:PM »
lived through what exactly.

I know how you feel Nugs it's ridiculous. You only have to go on the Internet to read about women who marry violent lifers in prison
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« Reply #116 on: January 11, 2017, 09:22:PM »
It appears to be very similar to Jeremy Bamber's protestations of innocence, if not a carbon copy.

Trying to produce an association fallacy are we? Gee Steve you must be desperate.

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« Reply #117 on: January 11, 2017, 09:53:PM »
Trying to produce an association fallacy are we? Gee Steve you must be desperate.
Not at all. It must be galling to you that Julie has not wavered once in 31 years, your bent coppers have still yet to be exposed and David Boutflour's silencer evidence has still not been successfully gainsaid.

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« Reply #118 on: January 12, 2017, 07:10:AM »
I know how you feel Nugs it's ridiculous. You only have to go on the Internet to read about women who marry violent lifers in prison

Jackie why don't you point out to nugnug that SH was guilty? Why do you purposely ignore his posts when he suggests SH is innocent? Nugnug alludes to others being responsible, or SH not acting alone.
Why don't you put him straight, are you afraid of nugnug or afraid if you put him straight he won't agree with your other posts on the forum?

And when are you going to reply to me about Jeremy, the caravan robbery and him being a liar? Just like SH.
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« Reply #119 on: January 12, 2017, 07:38:AM »
Jackie why don't you point out to nugnug that SH was guilty? Why do you purposely ignore his posts when he suggests SH is innocent? Nugnug alludes to others being responsible, or SH not acting alone.
Why don't you put him straight, are you afraid of nugnug or afraid if you put him straight he won't agree with your other posts on the forum?

And when are you going to reply to me about Jeremy, the caravan robbery and him being a liar? Just like SH.

We have all lied before haven't we for one reason or another

Nug nug is entitled to his opinion like everyone else on this forum
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