Sandra Leans book "No Smoke" should be re-vised or withdrawn

[Stephanie]

What research did you undertake with regards psychopathy and personality disorders, if any, before you put your book No Smoke together?

Simon Hall's pre trial assessment concluded if he were to be found guilty of the crime of murder, it's likely he had an Anti Social Personality Disorder (ASPD).

What significance, if any, did you give these findings? The same applies to all other cases highlighted. Were you aware of psychopathy and personality disorders?

You keep bringing up mental health and appear to avoid the above. Why? Are you aware of the differences between mental health and personality disorders/psychopathy?

[Stephanie]

Back to your book and the 6 families to which you refer:

Derek Christian http://www.thescarboroughnews.co.uk/news/crime/pensioner-s-murderer-inreview-hope-1-1404145

John Taft http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3352.msg133854.html#msg133854

Gordon Park http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7892.msg374321.html#msg374321

Luke Mitchell

Susan May http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6094.0.html

Sion Jenkins http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7310.msg346879.html#msg346879

4 and a half months after Simon Halls suicide, you withdrew from the Luke Mitchell case. Why?

[sandra L]

No connection between the two. I have stated quite clearly that I still believe Luke is innocent, based on all of the evidence I have seen. I will not be commenting on Luke's case from a campaigner's stance, as I made clear when I started posting here again.

[nugnug]

What research did you undertake with regards psychopathy and personality disorders, if any, before you put your book No Smoke together?

Simon Hall's pre trial assessment concluded if he were to be found guilty of the crime of murder, it's likely he had an Anti Social Personality Disorder (ASPD).

What significance, if any, did you give these findings? The same applies to all other cases highlighted. Were you aware of psychopathy and personality disorders?

You keep bringing up mental health and appear to avoid the above. Why? Are you aware of the differences between mental health and personality disorders/psychopathy?

so how come you never mentioned it then you must of been fully aware of it.

[Stephanie]

No connection between the two. I have stated quite clearly that I still believe Luke is innocent, based on all of the evidence I have seen. I will not be commenting on Luke's case from a campaigner's stance, as I made clear when I started posting here again.

There is indeed a connection between the two as the following article highlights http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/criminologist-withdraws-from-fight-to-free-luke-mitchell-1-3478153 bith cases featured in your book No Smoke.

Following Simon's confession and death in custody, you told be you saw similarities in Luke's relationship with his mother as those I had described to you disclosed to me by Simon. You told me you would be withdrawing from all MOJ campaigning. A few weeks/months later you did.

Luke Mitchell has since gone on to prove you wrong, and indeed the content of your book, in that he does indeed have a fascination with the occult, among other things.

Whilst you suggest you still believe him to be innocent, I believe if you were now showed a video of him murdering JJ, you would still make up every excuse under the sun to attempt to suggest it wasn't him.

[sandra L]

No connection between the two. I have stated quite clearly that I still believe Luke is innocent, based on all of the evidence I have seen. I will not be commenting on Luke's case from a campaigner's stance, as I made clear when I started posting here again

No connection between Simon's suicide and my decision to withdraw.

[Stephanie]

No connection between Simon's suicide and my decision to withdraw.

That may be what you suggest to the board Sandra, but I know for a fact you are not to be trusted and that anything you say should be taken with a pinch of salt.

You were given the opportunity to admit you were wrong and in fact were a victim but you have chosen to continue to attempt to distort the truth. Which says much about you Sandra. You may fool some people some of the time but you stopped fooling me a long time ago.

The truth always outs in the end.

You stated on this board, following Simon's confession, that it was me who told you I believed all those maintaining innocence were guilty. This is not what I said but you chose to twist what I said in order attempt to further assassinate my character and call in to question the validity of the confession.

I knew what you were attempting to do then, just as I know what you are attempting to do now.

 

[nugnug]

What research did you undertake with regards psychopathy and personality disorders, if any, before you put your book No Smoke together?

Simon Hall's pre trial assessment concluded if he were to be found guilty of the crime of murder, it's likely he had an Anti Social Personality Disorder (ASPD).

What significance, if any, did you give these findings? The same applies to all other cases highlighted. Were you aware of psychopathy and personality disorders?

You keep bringing up mental health and appear to avoid the above. Why? Are you aware of the differences between mental health and personality disorders/psychopathy?

so stephany why do you lie about this in your husbands capaghn you told us he was a perfectly normal guy this clearly shows that wasnt true why did you decive us all then.

[guest7363]

so stephany why do you lie about this in your husbands capaghn you told us he was a perfectly normal guy this clearly shows that wasnt true why did you decive us all then.

Who is us?  Do you work with Sandra?

[Stephanie]

Who is us?  Do you work with Sandra?

Makes you wonder doesn't it Justice?

[nugnug]

Who is us?  Do you work with Sandra?

i mean the forum the people stephina blantently lied to do we get an apology.

[sandra L]

I believe if you were now showed a video of him murdering JJ, you would still make up every excuse under the sun to attempt to suggest it wasn't him

That is, quite frankly, one of the most sick posts I think I've ever seen.

I had two daughters around Jodi's age at the time - why on earth would I make any effort whatsoever to help someone whom I had reason to suspect might be freed back into my own community, where my children lived, to do the same again?

[guest7363]

i mean the forum the people stephina blantently lied to do we get an apology.

Oh right, will have to look into some of these cases, I see the red forum have commented on this and about the case?

[nugnug]

so when do we get an apology for being lied to then steph.

[Jane]

so stephany why do you lie about this in your husbands capaghn you told us he was a perfectly normal guy this clearly shows that wasnt true why did you decive us all then.

"Lie to US"!!!!!! What gives you the right to come over as so bloody self important, Nugs? Name me one woman, defending her husband, in public, who'll admit to the likes of YOU -by that, I mean those who are attacking her- that she believes he's other than "a perfectly normal guy"? Whatever may be your view of what normal implies. Steph's public views, at that time, certainly come under my own heading of such. I'm certain Steph, NOW, will be the first to admit those views were misguided. You feel deceived? TOUGH! Live with it. Get over it.