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Offline petey

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #135 on: February 09, 2018, 12:27:AM »
100% child criminals should be granted anonymity where necessary.

It's obviously an incredibly emotive subject, but in the 21st century in civilised society , there is no room for mob rule.

The English legal system governs crime and sentencing, not the general public. However hard it may be, emotion has to come out of sentencing.

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #136 on: February 09, 2018, 09:49:AM »
Did it associate his last moments alive with one of the killers in particular?

The police tend to highlight Robert Thompson as the main instigator but it was John Venables who was seen leading James away and from some of the witness testimony, Venables seemed the most determined of the two. Venables has also gone on to offend again - but only they know what really happened.
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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #137 on: February 09, 2018, 09:50:AM »
100% child criminals should be granted anonymity where necessary.

It's obviously an incredibly emotive subject, but in the 21st century in civilised society , there is no room for mob rule.

The English legal system governs crime and sentencing, not the general public. However hard it may be, emotion has to come out of sentencing.

Agreed!
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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #138 on: February 09, 2018, 10:21:AM »
God help the future of this country !!

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #139 on: February 09, 2018, 10:28:AM »
Did it associate his last moments alive with one of the killers in particular?






The main instigator had been Venables who'd been previously planning to murder " a " toddler. Mark my words,at sometime in his evil life,he'll murder again.
Do we sit back and say " oh dear ?"

The two monsters should have been sent in a street full of mothers---------enough said. Trial over !

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #140 on: February 09, 2018, 10:45:AM »
If nobody shed a tear last night then there's something radically wrong with you !!

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #141 on: February 09, 2018, 11:46:AM »
If nobody shed a tear last night then there's something radically wrong with you !!

Not sure the reason for this rant. There is no one here (I would imagine) that doesn't feel the same anger and sorrow for what happened to little James and sick at the thought of two 10 year old boys being responsible - you don't hold the monopoly. BUT, the kind of world you're advocating is a one where people just take revenge and that's not what the law is about and you can't make exceptions because something stirs emotion.

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #142 on: February 09, 2018, 12:22:PM »
Not sure the reason for this rant. There is no one here (I would imagine) that doesn't feel the same anger and sorrow for what happened to little James and sick at the thought of two 10 year old boys being responsible - you don't hold the monopoly. BUT, the kind of world you're advocating is a one where people just take revenge and that's not what the law is about and you can't make exceptions because something stirs emotion.






It's not only this case that stirs emotions. The system itself is buggered. Look at that Worboys creature------8 years ? For ruining over 100 womens lives. Meaning he'll be out in about 4 to carry on his sick game.
I'm heartily sick in general at the kid-glove treatment of some monsters. They're looked after---new identities and everything else,but WHAT about the victims in all of these crimes ?
Denise has never been given the justice that's so badly needed--------it's ALL about the criminals as it is with every heinous crime.It would seem that the bigger the crime,the better the criminal gets treated.

In this country,we house terrorists,but the government are Hell-bent in sending innocent people back to their countries. I'm supporting a foreign paramedic and an American man ( who's married here and has lived in this country for 17 years) and the idiots in the Home office have decided to deport him ??

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #143 on: February 09, 2018, 12:28:PM »





The main instigator had been Venables who'd been previously planning to murder " a " toddler. Mark my words,at sometime in his evil life,he'll murder again.
Do we sit back and say " oh dear ?"

The two monsters should have been sent in a street full of mothers---------enough said. Trial over !

Out of interest what are your thoughts regarding Robert Thompson who has been out of prison for 17 years, has managed to move on in his life and hasn't re-offended, instead settling back into community.

Is he still a monster who should be locked up for life? Are you happy that he appears to have turned his life around, or do you believe he should have served time in an adult prison alongside other serious offenders where he may well have been influenced to a continued life of crime on release?

On a separate note, the first documentary regarding James Bulger screened on Channel was an absolute disgrace, allowing McKenzie who is reviled in the city of Liverpool, a mouthpiece

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #144 on: February 09, 2018, 12:32:PM »
Out of interest what are your thoughts regarding Robert Thompson who has been out of prison for 17 years, has managed to move on in his life and hasn't re-offended, instead settling back into community.

Is he still a monster who should be locked up for life? Are you happy that he appears to have turned his life around, or do you believe he should have served time in an adult prison alongside other serious offenders where he may well have been influenced to a continued life of crime on release?

On a separate note, the first documentary regarding James Bulger screened on Channel was an absolute disgrace, allowing McKenzie who is reviled in the city of Liverpool, a mouthpiece





I wouldn't count your chickens over Thompson either ! These people don't change.

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #145 on: February 09, 2018, 12:34:PM »
Only Denise,a mother,understands. I applaud her dignity.

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #146 on: February 09, 2018, 12:53:PM »
Only Denise,a mother,understands. I applaud her dignity.

You speak from an emotion driven, victims perspective. .

I speak from a legal, criminologist viewpoint.

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #147 on: February 09, 2018, 01:02:PM »
You speak from an emotion driven, victims perspective. .

I speak from a legal, criminologist viewpoint.





Each to their own,eh ?
Why can't I speak up for the victims-----the law certainly doesn't,it's only a job to you and your ilk.

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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #148 on: February 09, 2018, 01:45:PM »
It's not only this case that stirs emotions. The system itself is buggered. Look at that Worboys creature------8 years ? For ruining over 100 womens lives. Meaning he'll be out in about 4 to carry on his sick game.
I'm heartily sick in general at the kid-glove treatment of some monsters. They're looked after---new identities and everything else,but WHAT about the victims in all of these crimes ?
Denise has never been given the justice that's so badly needed--------it's ALL about the criminals as it is with every heinous crime.It would seem that the bigger the crime,the better the criminal gets treated.

In this country,we house terrorists,but the government are Hell-bent in sending innocent people back to their countries. I'm supporting a foreign paramedic and an American man ( who's married here and has lived in this country for 17 years) and the idiots in the Home office have decided to deport him ??

I didn't say it was.
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Re: Should child criminals be granted anonymity?
« Reply #149 on: February 09, 2018, 02:01:PM »
Was that an afterthought ?