Author Topic: The police Message Log Conspiracy - how they framed Jeremy Bamber for murders..  (Read 9280 times)

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Offline mike tesko

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With the contents of the police message logs currently to hand, maybe we can all see why firearm officers en masse did not attend court and testify. How would any of them have been able to explain away the message that 'the body of one dead female in kitchen', after mention had already been made of the body of Ralph Bamber?

You see, Collins attempt to cover for the presence of a female body in the kitchen, does not sit well with the known facts. Since, if there had been such a mistake, a mix up as contended by PC Collins, there would have been no need to add 'and the body of one dead female in kitchen', after already mentioning Ralph Bambers body. Collins attempted foil is exposed as a cheap lie, easily dealt with...
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Collins claim that he saw the body of a female behind the kitchen door, is somewhat ambiguous because he does not bother to explain to which kitchen door he was referring to, or to his perspective at the time of his alleged sighting through the kitchen window. This becomes highlighted when you realise that from his vantage point outside the kitchen window looking in,  any body positioned between that window, and the internal kitchen/rear hallway door would have been in front of the kitchen door, not behind it. Hence, another reason which serves to expose the Collins explanation for why there were two bodies in the kitchen, as a lie. Everything he says with regards to there having been confusion or a mix up with the body count downstairs in the kitchen, is not supported by the body count upstairs at or by 8.10am, that morning (only three bodies upstairs). The mention of a suicide second in the chain of command is also problematic. Since, on that account, with a suicide being such in say second position, this does not bode well for the accuracy regarding the order in which the five bodies of the victims were stumbled upon. In the statement versions Sheila's supposed suicide gets accounted for in third position, whereas in the police log version account, her body appears in second position, with June. Bambers death (a murder) in third position...

It soon becomes blatantly obvious that this bunch of bad apple cops have tied themselves in knots by introducing a false truth regarding the question of whether Sheila Caffell was dead, or alive, at the time armed cops forced their way into the farmhouse with a view to bringing the seige to an end...

The only thing which changes between the police message log account and the witness statement account, is the order with which the bodies of the two females were found, that is Sheila, then June (police message log account), June, then Sheila (witness statement account), everything else stays the same. If cops were telling the truth there would not be so many glaring irregularities. Truth is universal. It doesn't matter which angle you approach the truth by, all the facts fit snugly into place, you do not find glitches, or anomalies. This cannot be said about the body count downstairs and upstairs, or about the order a death then a suicide was known about prior to 7.45am...

On the witness statement version of events, the bodies of Sheila, Nicholas and Daniels were the 'three bodies' found upstairs', June Bambers body cannot fall into that category. By the same token based entirely on the police message log version of events June Bambers body could not have been the first female body referred to as a suicide, the first female body referred to as a 'suicide' must have been a reference to Sheila Jean Caffell. The upshot of all of this, is that the police message log version of events, and the witness statement version of events do not refer to the same part of the same police operation. The police message log version of events refers to the original events right up until about 8.15am, when DCS Harris used the kitchen telephone to make a one to one call to ACC 'Peter' Simpson. At this time, Harris was updating Simpson about how the operation had just gone pearshaped, with the vanishing of Sheila's body from the kitchen, which subsequently ended up in the main bedroom upstairs...

The witness statement version of events, came about because senior officers at a debriefing held at Witham police station on that first evening, instructed firearm officers present that they had got to make up their notes, statements, and reports, along the lines that what they had been dealing with, was a seige situation involving four murders, and a suicide, and that they were to build into their accounts the fact that the bodies of the five victims had been originally found in the locations where the bodies ended up in keeping with where PC 'David' Bird (SOCO) had photographed the bodies in situ. Hence, why there is a glaring discrepancy in the body count downstairs and upstairs, originally, and by the end with the transition of Sheila downstairs to upstairs...
« Last Edit: November 25, 2016, 05:08:PM by mike tesko »
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Offline mike tesko

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For all anyone really knows, the firearm officers may not have made their own witness statements...
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For all anyone really knows, the firearm officers may not have made their own witness statements...

This was never resolved because the firearm officers did not testify during the October 1986 Chelmsford Crown Court trial...

They could not be cross examined...

The lie, just grew and grew, unchecked...
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Why does one of the most 'intriguing murder cases in British Criminal history', have this conflict regarding 'where the body of Sheila Jean Caffell was present/found (a) in kitchen, and (b) in Main Bedroom?

This 'flags up' a huge question mark regarding Bambers culpability - I do not believe that he shot and killed his sister. I do not believe he removed a silencer from the barrel of the rifle and hid it away it in a cupboard. I do not believe he staged his sisters death scene. He couldn't have shot her in the main bedroom and killed her, or staged her body in such a way that it would compel the cops to believe that she had shot and killed the others, and that she had then taken her own life. How was this possible, with cops placing Sheila in the kitchen from as late as 7.37am, onwards, and definitely not present upstairs until after 8.10am?

The now known facts, speak for themselves, the contents of police message logs is admissible in evidence. It undermines the claims that Bamber killed his sister, and did all the things the prosecution claimed he did in an effort to get away with the perfect murders...
« Last Edit: November 25, 2016, 07:48:PM by mike tesko »
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The real question which should be on the tip of everyone's tongue, is whether or not the contents of these withheld police message logs, is believable, and it can impact upon the integrity of the prosecutions case, three decades after the alleged events?

In my view, it can, it does, and it will....
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Key, phrase:-

'And the body of one dead female in kitchen' (7.37am)...
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Ralph Bambers body had already been denoted, if a mistake had been made as per the PC Collins nonsense, you would not have reference to any additional body being present in the kitchen. There would only have been the one body. But we have two bodies, 'one dead male', and 'one dead female'...

Some people say, that the explanation by PC Collins adequately explains this discrepancy, but it does not. It does not go even half way to explaining why after reference has been made to 'the body of one dead male', there is additional mention of - 'and the body of one dead female in kitchen' (7.37am)?
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PC Collins explanation has never been given in a court of law...

We don't even know if this explanation was made by PC Collins, whether he or somebody else made that witness statement for him?

A jury needed to hear all of this evidence, not a judge, not the CPS, not Essex police, a jury...
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I am satisfied, that two bodies, not one, were present in the kitchen when firearm officers first entered the kitchen. Despite three decades having already passed, no firearm officer has come forward to state that only one body had been present. I believe that a failure of any of the eight firearm officers who entered the farmhouse prior to 9am, to refute the presence of Sheila's body in the kitchen at 7.37am until after 8.10am, is proof sufficient that not only that Sheila was present in the kitchen at that stage, but more importantly, that Jeremy Bamber had not shot and killed his sister upstairs in the bedroom, he had removed any silencer, he had taken such a silencer downstairs to hide it in a cupboard in the den. He had not staged his sisters body with any rifle from any first floor window, intent upon fooling the police into thinking that his sister had taken her own life, after she had shot and killed the other four victims...

Jeremy Bamber, had not done any of these things - the contents of these non disclosed police message logs proved this, established this beyond doubt...

How had Bamber managed to be present inside whf after 7.37am, when cops had Sheila Caffells body present in the kitchen, whilst the rifle which supposedly was used to kill her, was resting against a first floor window?

Stop blaming Jeremy Bamber for these murders, he is and always has been innocent. If these circumstances applied to any of you, you would all be screaming from the rooftops, that you were innocent. Please, show respect to the victim of arguably one of the worst miscarriages of justice, ever...


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Offline mike tesko

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There are those amongst us, who have befriended Jeremy and who have changed their opinion about whether they think he 'did it' or he 'didn't do it'. I have some sound advice to give to these persons - just because Jeremy has detached himself from you, or as the case may be, he has disowned you, or failed to show any interest in you after some period or other, does not mean that he must have committed the murders. The truth is, he did not shoot his sister with use of the rifle from the first floor window?

People are wrongly assuming that Jeremy shot and killed his sister on the main bedroom floor by use of the rifle from the first floor window...

Stop - he didn't...

Cops have lied, cops staged Sheila's death scene, they brought the rifle from the first floor window and placed it on her body, then at some later stage they photographed the rifle from the first floor window upon her body, in her possession...

These are the facts...

If true, Jeremy had not staged his sisters body to fool cops into thinking she had taken her own life. Cops faked her death scene so that they could suggest that she had taken her own life...

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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I have studied this case for almost three decades. I myself am a victim of police and CPS corruption. If I say cops and the CPS have falsified details of the case against Jeremy, to paint him in a poor light, you can bet your bottom dollar that what I am saying is the truth. Cops shot Sheila in the kitchen, downstairs. Cops shot Sheila upstairs in the main bedroom. The same weapon did not fire both of these bullets. You make your own minds up. How was Sheila shot downstairs in the kitchen, by the rifle at a first floor window?

Think!!!
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I have not been in touch with Jeremy Bamber for several years...

He moved on to pastures new, but he made the fatal mistake of abandoning me, in favour of more high profile personal. Jeremy Bamber will regret abandoning a person like myself. This is because I do understand the position he presently finds himself in. Yes, he has been framed by a group of dishonest cops, and the CPS, who's job it is to see the worst in everybody...

If I never see  Jeremy Bamber ever again, if he never writes to me ever again, I will always maintain that this man did not kill his sister. He didn't stage her body with a view to trying to fool cops into believing that his sister had taken her own life...

Cops are accountable...

With 100% certainty...
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Everybody, I have decided to try and help in these or similar circumstances, will admit that I know what I am talking about. I have been involved behind the scene in some very high profile cases which were either successful at trial stage, or upon appeal...

One example, involved a 'UDA' case, where cops fabricated evidence to implicate the driver of a car, as the person who robbed a post office at gun point, by falsifying so called scientific footprint evidence on a counter inside the post office, which I duly exposed as being false. The defendant was found, 'Not Guilty' based upon my advice. Solicitors representing the accused sent a personal message of gratitude to myself. Defendant was over the moon with the research I did in that particular case...
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In another high profile case, on appeal, I advised that an appellant could not be convicted of 'Conspiracy to murder' by verdict of the jury, because they had found the same defendant as being 'not guilty' of attempting to murder the same person...
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