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[guest7363]

If Jeremy Bamber is a child killer, then he deserved to incarcerated, at the very least, for his original minimum term.

Do you also agree, that if it comes to light that Sheila Caffell was known to be alive in the farmhouse while the police were outside, then the people who knew this to be the case have committed two serious moral errors?

They would have knowingly sent or allowed an innocent person to go to prison, with the label of 'child killer' hanging around their neck.

They would have sullied the memory of the victims, by allowing a false set of circs and 'facts' to be perpetuated.

I think it's a no brainier Roch and I would think that everyone would agree.  Roch MOJ must be terrible for anyone.

[Roch]

Well he does point out, "they should take a look at the holes he put in his five victims two of them kids" so I would think he has some understanding?  Admitted he hasn't gone into detail, it's well known prisoners get to know one another and what they are in for, I cannot see Bronson mentioning Bamber unless he has had dealings with him?  Yes he has changed his name in 2014, I think he only went in for petty crime to start with?  If you read about him, he knows down to detail what other prisoners are up to and all about them.

I think opinion among the prison population regarding Bamber's guilt or innocence is split. Therefore, if somebody bangs the drum about a former inmate who has voiced concern about Bamber's conviction, somebody will be able to point towards other inmates like 'Bronson' as a counter argument.

[Adam]

If Jeremy Bamber is a child killer, then he deserved to incarcerated, at the very least, for his original minimum term.

Do you also agree, that if it comes to light that Sheila Caffell was known to be alive in the farmhouse while the police were outside, then the people who knew this to be the case have committed two serious moral errors?

They would have knowingly sent or allowed an innocent person to go to prison, with the label of 'child killer' hanging around their neck.

They would have sullied the memory of the victims, by allowing a false set of circs and 'facts' to be perpetuated.

There is no evidence Sheila was alive after the police arrived. And no one has ever given a reason why Sheila would want to committ murder/suicide but keep herself alive for another 5 hours.

[Roch]

There is no evidence Sheila was alive after the police arrived. And no one has ever given a reason why Sheila would want to committ murder/suicide but keep herself alive for another 5 hours.

There is plenty evidence. Two firearms trained spotters independently sighted a rifle, where there could not have been one, if the prosecution's case was genuine. Police were also in conversation with somebody from inside the farm, that they then made further unmet challenges to.  Let's hope you never have to experience what she went through, in your quest to understand her actions. 

Oh and I forgot... Bews fled in terror, after a backlit figure was sighted.

[Roch]

I think it's a no brainier Roch and I would think that everyone would agree.  Roch MOJ must be terrible for anyone.

Fair play 

[Adam]

There is plenty evidence. Two firearms trained spotters independently sighted a rifle, where there could not have been one, if the prosecution's case was genuine. Police were also in conversation with somebody from inside the farm, that they then made further unmet challenges to.  Let's hope you never have to experience what she went through, in your quest to understand her actions. 

Oh and I forgot... Bews fled in terror, after a backlit figure was sighted.

There is no evidence anyone was alive.

It was 'a trick of the light'. Which sources say Bamber saw.

The photo of the rifle was moved after pictures of Sheila had been taken. Or there were two rifles.

Conversation attempts 'met with no response'. Or was Sheila talking through a loud speaker ?

No one can give a reason why Sheila would kill 4 people then wait 5 hours before killing herself.


But appreciate Bamber's supporters like conspiracy theories 

[Roch]

There is no evidence anyone was alive.

It was 'a trick of the light'. Which sources say Bamber saw.

The photo of the rifle was moved after pictures of Sheila had been taken. Or there were two rifles.

Conversation attempts 'met with no response'. Or was Sheila talking through a loud speaker ?

No one can give a reason why Sheila would kill 4 people then wait 5 hours before killing herself.


But appreciate Bamber's supporters like conspiracy theories

I wasn't referring to a photo of the rifle... You can't introduce a second rifle thats' existence was concealed, without jeopardising the credibility of the prosecution case. The trick of the light concept was introduced by Rivlin, for reasons we may or may not find out in future. People do not run away from tricks of the light, once they are certain that that is all it is. I was not inside the mind of Sheila Caffell, so I cannot say why she delayed her own death or when she first attempted it. ... Furthermore, why am I wasting my time even reacting to you?

[Adam]

I wasn't referring to a photo of the rifle... You can't introduce a second rifle thats' existence was concealed, without jeopardising the credibility of the prosecution case. The trick of the light concept was introduced by Rivlin, for reasons we may or may not find out in future. People do not run away from tricks of the light, once they are certain that that is all it is. I was not inside the mind of Sheila Caffell, so I cannot say why she delayed her own death or when she first attempted it. ... Furthermore, why am I wasting my time even reacting to you?

So you can''t give a reason why Sheila kept herself alive for another 5 hours.

Can I have a source that people ran away ? The evidence is everyone stayed and decided it was a 'trick of the light'.

Existence of a second rifle that's existence was concealed ? That must have been the police framing Bamber then as part of the big conspiracy. Anyway, source please.

[Roch]

So you can''t give a reason why Sheila kept herself alive for another 5 hours.

Can I have a source that people ran away ? The evidence is everyone stayed and decided it was a 'trick of the light'.

Existence of a second rifle that's existence was concealed ? That must have been the police framing Bamber then as part of the big conspiracy. Anyway, source please.

Are you for real? It's you that is introducing a second rifle in the proceedings. That is your interpretation of the implications regarding Jeapes and Brown sightings!

It's in the colp interviews of Saxby? Regarding running back to CA7. They are also described as 'backing away' or 'backing off' from the property in the logs.  I class Jeremy Bamber's opinion as potential evidence also. He expressed that Bews shot off so fast that he and Myall just looked at each other... before following Bews.

[Adam]

Are you for real? It's you that is introducing a second rifle in the proceedings. That is your interpretation of the implications regarding Jeapes and Brown sightings!

It's in the colp interviews of Saxby? Regarding running back to CA7. They are also described as 'backing away' or 'backing off' from the property in the logs.  I class Jeremy Bamber's opinion as potential evidence also. He expressed that Bews shot off so fast that he and Myall just looked at each other... before following Bews.

Are you for real ?

You said "I wasn't referring to a photo of the rifle... You can't introduce a second rifle thats' existence was concealed, without jeopardising the credibility of the prosecution case". So bringing up a second rifle in you're big creepy conspiracy in support of Bamber.

You are supposed to provide links to sources when sources are requested. Just as I do. Anyway the police did back off. They called the raid team. Almost certainly after the mass of information Bamber had given them about Sheila & WHF.  Or was calling the raid team part of the frame as well ?

[Roch]

Are you for real ?

You said "I wasn't referring to a photo of the rifle... You can't introduce a second rifle thats' existence was concealed, without jeopardising the credibility of the prosecution case". So bringing up a second rifle in you're big creepy conspiracy in support of Bamber.

You are supposed to provide links to sources when sources are requested. Just as I do. Anyway the police did back off. They called the raid team. Almost certainly after the mass of information Bamber had given them about Sheila & WHF.  Or was calling the raid team part of the frame as well ?

If you bothered to actually read other members' posts properly, you could save both us and yourself a lot of time and effort. But that's not really your game is it? Your game is and always has been - disruption.