The window catch issue

[Adam]

Whatever window with whatever catch cannot just be banged shut,securing itself. Unless you know these kind of windows they have to be physically secured from the inside. Just by banging them shut doesn't give the desired effect of them being made secure as the catch has to sit firmly for this to happen.

  Even Bamber has accepted for the last 31 years that the kitchen window could be banged shut from outside.

The latest claim from the CT is apparent newly discovered crime scene photos show it had not been banged shut.

They then contradict themselves by saying the horizontal catch was not on it's pegs. Neville or June mysteriously just shutting the vertical lock and not touching the horizintal lock.

[lookout]

I KNOW they can be banged shut,but NEVER secured------------as they'd been found to have been.

[guest7363]

I would agree had Jeremy NOT admitted he could access by just about every window on the ground floor and Barlow managed to successfully close the kitchen window.

He even got in through the loo window once, wonder how big that window was they are usually small top windows?  Don't know for sure.

After my arrest at Chelmsford I went to London, came back and had not got my key. I needed car documents kept in the office for a holiday and I got in the loo window.

Would that be the bathroom window?

[maggie]

I KNOW they can be banged shut,but NEVER secured------------as they'd been found to have been.

Exactly.

[maggie]

He even got in through the loo window once, wonder how big that window was they are usually small top windows?  Don't know for sure.

After my arrest at Chelmsford I went to London, came back and had not got my key. I needed car documents kept in the office for a holiday and I got in the loo window. Would that be the bathroom?

It's true JB and most of the younger members of the family including Anthony Pargiter often entered the farmhouse via various windows but they have not claimed the Windows could be secured from outside the house.

[guest7363]

It's true JB and most of the younger members of the family including Anthony Pargiter often entered the farmhouse via various windows but they have not claimed the Windows could be secured from outside the house.

I know that, I am just curious as to how small the loo window was that's all?  Who knows he may have used some rod or long piece of wood to tap handles down and just leave the top window to bang shut, I have used implements before from the outside to shut handles, it's not that he was a novice at this sort of thing and he had plenty of practice.

[Adam]

Bamber said he didn't know the kitchen window could be banged shut from outside. When the police said it could be, he didn't disagree with them.

[maggie]

I know that, I am just curious as to how small the loo window was that's all?  Who knows he may have used some rod or long piece of wood to tap handles down and just leave the top window to bang shut, I have used implements before from the outside to shut handles, it's not that he was a novice at this sort of thing and he had plenty of practice.

That's true justice.  The top window does look very small but there's always the possibility he devised something to close the side lock via the top window.   

[guest2181]

I know that, I am just curious as to how small the loo window was that's all?  Who knows he may have used some rod or long piece of wood to tap handles down and just leave the top window to bang shut, I have used implements before from the outside to shut handles, it's not that he was a novice at this sort of thing and he had plenty of practice.

This is the loo window.

[guest2181]

This is the loo window.

If you slide the bottom sash up, the opening is 740mm wide and 615mm high.

[guest7363]

That's true justice.  The top window does look very small but there's always the possibility he devised something to close the side lock via the top window.   

Quite true, if he devised implements to open, he could quite easily devise something to assist locking or appear locked, some older type windows were loose fitting and had gaps?

[Adam]

Similar to Trudie and other supporters, the CT have just caused more harm than good.

I was not aware the kitchen window had a horizontal handle and pegs. There is no possibilty June or Neville would have just shut the vertical handle.

But the CT have to be seen to be active and have raised over £4,000.00p for apparent forensic tests.

[guest2181]

Similar to Trudie and other supporters, the CT have just caused more harm than good.

I was not aware the kitchen window had a horizontal handle and pegs. There is no possibilty June or Neville would have just shut the vertical handle.

But the CT have to be seen to be active and have raised over £4,000.00p for apparent forensic tests.

Aren't they the same people?

[maggie]

That's true justice.  The top window does look very small but there's always the possibility he devised something to close the side lock via the top window.   

Sorry to confuse, I made a mistake, I was talking about the kitchen window! . The loo window was a sash window and possibly easier to manipulate if the lock was loose.

[lookout]

Even so,a sash window can't be secured unless on the inside either as that catch has to be " slid " under the locking device.
Not one window had been reported as having been insecure.