When the enquiry changed from a suicide to murder did the relatives have alibis?

[grahameb]

I have this feeling that the police are still feeding stuff to the relatives because everytime something positive happens for JB like the documentary or last week when the students handed in a petition to the ccrc it all kicks of on here people with strange names saying vile things.  The things that were said about mike were said by horseydave. Just that behaviour they know something's going.  JB will be getting out and at the moment I am just doing everything I can on Twitter it's so good you can talk to anyone direct barristers journalists, film producers in the next few months everyone will know this story

Keep up the good work, jackie.

hear hear. You are doing a great job Jackie. You are very knowledgeable about the case and have mentioned things that I haven't heard of.

[Jackiepreece]

Thanks Grahame I think everyone is doing their bit to uncover the truth about what went on in that family

[John]

Well it would need to be something really good given what we already know about Jeremy and his antics.

[chochokeira]

When the investigation changed to murder I take it they looked at other suspects as well as JB especially in light of the attack to Neville and goods being removed from the farm illegally by relatives?

Does anyone have any more information about alibis etc because in my mind there is always a possibility someone else was there when Neville made the phone call

Hello, Jackie, good to see you back - I've missed you!

Totally agree with your points regarding alibis and a possible third party murderer/s. +1

[chochokeira]

So Julie mugford and her friend got off the cheque fraud that was a very large amount of money and the caravan robbery and perverting the course of justice

Eaton wasn't charged with the attack on Neville or stealing goods
 
As I understand it Pargeter should have been charged re guns

Jeremy got charged with robbery at the caravan park and murder

As I understand it the police were given gifts and one a job at the caravan park

It is a absolute joke am I to understand that nobody else was investigated and people on here have the front to say they think JB is guilty.
If there is any justice now I hope it comes back to bite everyone involved in this cover up

JB has only recently found out about the secret land deal because it was under PII

Someone explain that to me what possible reason was there to do that ?

I think that's a very important point, Jackie. The whole question of why the PII gagging order was applied is a key issue, in particular when it's was so clearly misapplied in respect of data such as that detailing the land deal - and in a manner which predjudiced Jeremy Bamber's defence.

[chochokeira]

So Julie mugford and her friend got off the cheque fraud that was a very large amount of money and the caravan robbery and perverting the course of justice

Eaton wasn't charged with the attack on Neville or stealing goods
 
As I understand it Pargeter should have been charged re guns

Jeremy got charged with robbery at the caravan park and murder

As I understand it the police were given gifts and one a job at the caravan park

It is a absolute joke am I to understand that nobody else was investigated and people on here have the front to say they think JB is guilty.
If there is any justice now I hope it comes back to bite everyone involved in this cover up

JB has only recently found out about the secret land deal because it was under PII

Someone explain that to me what possible reason was there to do that ?

According to David Shaw´s, An Innocent Man, Julie was even paid directly by the police:

Julie said she wasn’t interested in matters financial; yet the police fully supported the expense claims she made while she was being interviewed by Essex police. Most people that spend time helping police inquiries don’t receive any compensation: Julie did.

I wasn't aware of this, abs, and I'm shocked to learn it. Where did you learn this? How much was she paid, do you know? The police must have been absolutely desperate for JM to do those 30 odd coaching sessions to pay her to do them. +1

[chochokeira]

So Julie mugford and her friend got off the cheque fraud that was a very large amount of money and the caravan robbery and perverting the course of justice

Eaton wasn't charged with the attack on Neville or stealing goods
 
As I understand it Pargeter should have been charged re guns

Jeremy got charged with robbery at the caravan park and murder

As I understand it the police were given gifts and one a job at the caravan park

It is a absolute joke am I to understand that nobody else was investigated and people on here have the front to say they think JB is guilty.
If there is any justice now I hope it comes back to bite everyone involved in this cover up

JB has only recently found out about the secret land deal because it was under PII

Someone explain that to me what possible reason was there to do that ?

According to David Shaw´s, An Innocent Man, Julie was even paid directly by the police:

Julie said she wasn’t interested in matters financial; yet the police fully supported the expense claims she made while she was being interviewed by Essex police. Most people that spend time helping police inquiries don’t receive any compensation: Julie did.

Sorry, abs, I know you said the information came from David Shaw, what I meant to ask was whether or not he provided any verifiable proof of this.

[Alias]

So Julie mugford and her friend got off the cheque fraud that was a very large amount of money and the caravan robbery and perverting the course of justice

Eaton wasn't charged with the attack on Neville or stealing goods
 
As I understand it Pargeter should have been charged re guns

Jeremy got charged with robbery at the caravan park and murder

As I understand it the police were given gifts and one a job at the caravan park

It is a absolute joke am I to understand that nobody else was investigated and people on here have the front to say they think JB is guilty.
If there is any justice now I hope it comes back to bite everyone involved in this cover up

JB has only recently found out about the secret land deal because it was under PII

Someone explain that to me what possible reason was there to do that ?

According to David Shaw´s, An Innocent Man, Julie was even paid directly by the police:

Julie said she wasn’t interested in matters financial; yet the police fully supported the expense claims she made while she was being interviewed by Essex police. Most people that spend time helping police inquiries don’t receive any compensation: Julie did.

I wasn't aware of this, abs, and I'm shocked to learn it. Where did you learn this? How much was she paid, do you know? The police must have been absolutely desperate for JM to do those 30 odd coaching sessions to pay her to do them. +1

Thanks chocho. I am reading David Shaw´s, An Innocent Man - Jeremy Bamber.
That is where I have that bit of information from. I know nothing more about it. I wish DS had elaborated on that point, because it is an interesting little detail.

[Alias]

Our posts crossed each other...

[Jackiepreece]

Thanks Chochokeira I have had a few problems to sort out and then someone made a nasty personal comment the usual like I am only helping JB because I fancy him so I thought I would just do stuff behind the scenes then I read the rubbish from 'the queen head' Sunday and I hat to say something.

Why don't they just admit who they are really and why they seem so desperately worried?

Anyway missed you Chocho

I am a bit worried though where's Kaldin
He's like my guilty pleasure I don't even mind when he tells me off

[Roch]

Thanks Chochokeira I have had a few problems to sort out and then someone made a nasty personal comment the usual like I am only helping JB because I fancy him so I thought I would just do stuff behind the scenes then I read the rubbish from 'the queen head' Sunday and I hat to say something.

Why don't they just admit who they are really and why they seem so desperately worried?

Anyway missed you Chocho

I am a bit worried though where's Kaldin
He's like my guilty pleasure I don't even mind when he tells me off

Who are they Jackie? 

[chochokeira]

So Julie mugford and her friend got off the cheque fraud that was a very large amount of money and the caravan robbery and perverting the course of justice

Eaton wasn't charged with the attack on Neville or stealing goods
 
As I understand it Pargeter should have been charged re guns

Jeremy got charged with robbery at the caravan park and murder

As I understand it the police were given gifts and one a job at the caravan park

It is a absolute joke am I to understand that nobody else was investigated and people on here have the front to say they think JB is guilty.
If there is any justice now I hope it comes back to bite everyone involved in this cover up

JB has only recently found out about the secret land deal because it was under PII

Someone explain that to me what possible reason was there to do that ?

According to David Shaw´s, An Innocent Man, Julie was even paid directly by the police:

Julie said she wasn’t interested in matters financial; yet the police fully supported the expense claims she made while she was being interviewed by Essex police. Most people that spend time helping police inquiries don’t receive any compensation: Julie did.

I wasn't aware of this, abs, and I'm shocked to learn it. Where did you learn this? How much was she paid, do you know? The police must have been absolutely desperate for JM to do those 30 odd coaching sessions to pay her to do them. +1

Thanks chocho. I am reading David Shaw´s, An Innocent Man - Jeremy Bamber.
That is where I have that bit of information from. I know nothing more about it. I wish DS had elaborated on that point, because it is an interesting little detail.

Thanks, abs, I wonder if it's possible to contact DS to ask him about issues like this one? I suspect he knows a lot more than he reveals.

[chochokeira]

So Julie mugford and her friend got off the cheque fraud that was a very large amount of money and the caravan robbery and perverting the course of justice

Eaton wasn't charged with the attack on Neville or stealing goods
 
As I understand it Pargeter should have been charged re guns

Jeremy got charged with robbery at the caravan park and murder

As I understand it the police were given gifts and one a job at the caravan park

It is a absolute joke am I to understand that nobody else was investigated and people on here have the front to say they think JB is guilty.
If there is any justice now I hope it comes back to bite everyone involved in this cover up

JB has only recently found out about the secret land deal because it was under PII

Someone explain that to me what possible reason was there to do that ?

In my mind the family are rotten to the core. How can they be allowed to get away with this.
The people who gained from JBs incarceration were boutflours, Easton. Pargeter,and obviously the rozer who got a job at the caravan park..

I agree Cliff.   What made them so bloomin' powerful though?!

Rural landowners always have been powerful. Groups of old families living in small villages tended to intermarry over the centuries, combining their land holdings and consolidating their family ties and power. These were the families in every village that, for centuries, almost everyone doffed their caps to. The police and people of the villages still do tend to doff their caps to them.

[chochokeira]

Thanks Chochokeira I have had a few problems to sort out and then someone made a nasty personal comment the usual like I am only helping JB because I fancy him so I thought I would just do stuff behind the scenes then I read the rubbish from 'the queen head' Sunday and I hat to say something.

Why don't they just admit who they are really and why they seem so desperately worried?

Anyway missed you Chocho

I am a bit worried though where's Kaldin

He's like my guilty pleasure I don't even mind when he tells me off

Kaldin will be back, you can bet on it. He's probably on his hols.

[chelmsey]

Whoever started this thread................well done!!! Its about time somebody questioned the behaviour of the slippery,greedy relatives.My hubby will be really pleased.He doesnt come on here but obviously we discuss the case alot,and he really does believe that PE knows alot more than the rest of us - if you know what I mean?