Bloodstain pattern on Sheila's upper wound

[Caroline]

The "confidential file" on Julie Mugford

The audio recording of the phone line exists or did exist. I have been told its been destroyed 

Apart from that I don't know. Is there any mention of Sheila keeping a diary? if so then it probably exists or existed

The audio recordings were destroyed after 28 days as a matter of course. There is nothing sinister about it. Thing is, I imagine Jeremy is glad they no longer exist because they would prove no phone call from his father. They can claim anything exists and is hidden - doesn't mean it's true. Why would Jeremy say he had all the PII stuff if he doesn't?

[zoe]

The ways and means of destroying them also indicates that Jeremy didnt make the calls from WHF, if he had they would have been heard at trial, seems to me alot of stuff has been lost, gone missing, cannot locate at this time, destroyed! far too many discrepancies, What is telling you?

[Jane]

The ways and means of destroying them also indicates that Jeremy didnt make the calls from WHF, if he had they would have been heard at trial, seems to me alot of stuff has been lost, gone missing, cannot locate at this time, destroyed! far too many discrepancies, What is telling you?

That some people just love conspiracy theories. Those who believe Jeremy guilty have this mantra about "stuff" which would prove him innocent being secreted away. It appears totally irrelevant that A) Jeremy says he has it all or B) It never existed in the first place.

[Caroline]

The ways and means of destroying them also indicates that Jeremy didnt make the calls from WHF, if he had they would have been heard at trial, seems to me alot of stuff has been lost, gone missing, cannot locate at this time, destroyed! far too many discrepancies, What is telling you?

Jeremy has stated that he has all of the PII stuff and that there is now no need to speculate and yet the CT are still asking for things to be released from PII - what does that tell you? You can say anything exsists, it doesn't mean it does.

[notsure]

Jeremy has stated that he has all of the PII stuff and that there is now no need to speculate and yet the CT are still asking for things to be released from PII - what does that tell you? You can say anything exsists, it doesn't mean it does.

it may be that people working on jbs behalf have realised through reference pojnts that some stuff has still not been disclosed.

i dont get why someone just cant be employed to review every pusce od material sgill stored or under pii

most mojs seem to have happened because of non disclosure. I think it would do a lot of good if the police confirmed they had handed over everything  of not and gave reasons.

[Caroline]

it may be that people working on jbs behalf have realised through reference pojnts that some stuff has still not been disclosed.

i dont get why someone just cant be employed to review every pusce od material sgill stored or under pii

most mojs seem to have happened because of non disclosure. I think it would do a lot of good if the police confirmed they had handed over everything  of not and gave reasons.

I agree 100% on this. If they have released everything then it's in their best interests to comment.

[lookout]

I'm very surprised that EP haven't made any sort of a comment one way or the other since quite a number of people,including MP's have requested withheld documents/files/logs,etc.

[Caroline]

I'm very surprised that EP haven't made any sort of a comment one way or the other since quite a number of people,including MP's have requested withheld documents/files/logs,etc.

To be honest, so am I and I really think they should which is why I signed the petition.

[lookout]

To be honest, so am I and I really think they should which is why I signed the petition.

It was March of last year when I actually e-mailed EP. They did reply/respond with a file  ( pdf ) to which you'd have to read it half a dozen times before you even got the gist of it. I gave up in the end because to me,I just felt fobbed off with the heap of information which side-tracked what I just required which was a yes or no whether there was indeed any more files etc.
The upshot was a matter of cost and also that they more or less thought that whatever was contained wouldn't be in the interest of the public ?

[notsure]

It was March of last year when I actually e-mailed EP. They did reply/respond with a file  ( pdf ) to which you'd have to read it half a dozen times before you even got the gist of it. I gave up in the end because to me,I just felt fobbed off with the heap of information which side-tracked what I just required which was a yes or no whether there was indeed any more files etc.
The upshot was a matter of cost and also that they more or less thought that whatever was contained wouldn't be in the interest of the public ?

no but we want yo bloody well know dont we lol....

[David1819]

It was March of last year when I actually e-mailed EP. They did reply/respond with a file  ( pdf ) to which you'd have to read it half a dozen times before you even got the gist of it. I gave up in the end because to me,I just felt fobbed off with the heap of information which side-tracked what I just required which was a yes or no whether there was indeed any more files etc.
The upshot was a matter of cost and also that they more or less thought that whatever was contained wouldn't be in the interest of the public ?

Can you upload the PDF for us please lookout?

[lookout]

Can you upload the PDF for us please lookout?

I'll try David------just bear with me.

[lookout]

David,can you possibly " cobble-up " an e-mail address so that I can send it to you ?

The file which was sent to me has restrictions for " the exclusive use for the bodies to whom it's addressed to ",being confidential to the Kent and Essex police.

[sami]

That some people just love conspiracy theories. Those who believe Jeremy guilty have this mantra about "stuff" which would prove him innocent being secreted away. It appears totally irrelevant that A) Jeremy says he has it all or B) It never existed in the first place.

yes jane that sounds right