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Offline David1819

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« Reply #90 on: July 31, 2016, 08:00:PM »
If Sheila is sitting up, then her body instantly becomes lifeless after the fatal shot. She will remain in exactly the same position.

Only an alive person can move their lower body at least two feet forward from a sitting upright position. By using their functional and alive arms and lower body with considerable effort.

And only a magician can move the body two feet without producing any corresponding blood stains  ::)

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« Reply #91 on: July 31, 2016, 08:09:PM »
To move myself from a sitting up position to having my head laying on the floor, without standing up, takes considerable arm and lower body effort of moving myself forward several feet. 

It took several seconds.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #92 on: July 31, 2016, 09:26:PM »
And only a magician can move the body two feet without producing any corresponding blood stains  ::)
not really.where would 'you' expect the blood stains to had she been pulled down by her legs

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« Reply #93 on: August 01, 2016, 03:08:PM »
I do not think anyone on here who would have viewed the bodies of the twins, with hair shaved and
knew who had killed them would have kept quiet. I would have shopped my son.
JM said she knew, but said nothing.
The excuse of being young and in love does not wash.

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« Reply #94 on: August 01, 2016, 03:33:PM »
Having seen all sorts during my career and learned to hold back on the emotional sides of things ( to a degree ) I couldn't have done what JM did even if my life had depended on it and can't understand to this day why she'd offered.
Even servicemen/women would have been hard-pushed. 

I wish I knew the REAL reason !

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« Reply #95 on: August 01, 2016, 03:56:PM »
Having seen all sorts during my career and learned to hold back on the emotional sides of things ( to a degree ) I couldn't have done what JM did even if my life had depended on it and can't understand to this day why she'd offered.
Even servicemen/women would have been hard-pushed. 

I wish I knew the REAL reason !

According to her trial testimony she done it so she could speak to Sheila supernaturally it find the truth. This was brought up to catch her out because if Jeremy had done all this planning and told her "tonight is the night" and that he hired a hitman ect. it shows she is lying one way or another

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« Reply #96 on: August 01, 2016, 04:14:PM »
According to her trial testimony she done it so she could speak to Sheila supernaturally it find the truth. This was brought up to catch her out because if Jeremy had done all this planning and told her "tonight is the night" and that he hired a hitman ect. it shows she is lying one way or another
Totally agree David. She had already said that she knew Jeremy was the killer without supernatural powers. Probably something to do with the drugs she was on.

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« Reply #97 on: August 01, 2016, 04:45:PM »
What a lame excuse. JM was a schemer,no doubt about that and the method she used to visit the mortuary only she knew.

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« Reply #98 on: August 01, 2016, 05:08:PM »
Totally agree David. She had already said that she knew Jeremy was the killer without supernatural powers. Probably something to do with the drugs she was on.
She probably did in her heart, though admits only to realizing after call 2 that Jeremy was telling her his family was dead. Unable and unwilling to accept that the relationship had expired with them she went along with this narcissist until the pain became too great: as Julie put it she was carrying the guilt for both of them. It was not Julie chuckling behind closed doors at Bourtree Cottage but Jeremy: chuckling at the twenty five shots he fired, chuckling at the false trail he had set Police and chuckling at the thought of outwitting the relatives over whom he now had the whip hand and to whom he declared "I'm the boss", along with Police and Barbara, who found him with his feet up on the desk upon entering the office several days later. It was all make believe, a charade in Jeremy's mind that he would have the cash at his disposal at a time of his choosing, before he became staid and antiquated like the parents he had endured all those years, parents who had saved for a comfortable retirement, yet who met their nemesis at the end of a gun from a boy they had attempted to nurture the best they knew how.

How could Julie now accept the blood money of a wine bar in London's fashionable West End with five deaths on her conscience, how could she possibly pour a tomato juice to rich City slickers without memories of Jeremy flooding back, the superficial charisma hiding a terrible shallowness ad interim which no materialism could sustain, and and as the noose tightened she did the only thing she could to extricate herself from this monster, the monster she may have in part helped to create, by finally divulging the extent of his defect to an outside source, though too late to assuage her conscience and the five corpses which lie lifeless thereon.
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« Reply #99 on: August 01, 2016, 05:16:PM »
She probably did in her heart, though admits only to realizing after call 2 that Jeremy was telling her his family was dead. Unable and unwilling to accept that the relationship had expired with them she went along with this narcissist until the pain became too great: as Julie put it she was carrying the guilt for both of them. It was not Julie chuckling behind closed doors at Bourtree Cottage but Jeremy: chuckling at the twenty five shots he fired, chuckling at the false trail he had set Police and chuckling at the thought of outwitting the relatives over whom he now had the whip hand and to whom he declared "I'm the boss", along with Police and Barbara, who found him with his feet up on the desk upon entering the office several days later. It was all make believe, a charade in Jeremy's mind that he would have the cash at his disposal at a time of his choosing, before he became staid and antiquated like the parents he had endured all those years, parents who had saved for a comfortable retirement, yet who met their nemesis at the end of a gun from a boy they had attempted to nurture the best they knew how.

How could Julie now accept the blood money of a wine bar in London's fashionable West End with five deaths on her conscience, how could she possibly pour a tomato juice to rich City slickers without memories of Jeremy flooding back, the superficial charisma hiding a terrible shallowness ad interim which no materialism could sustain, and and as the noose tightened she did the only thing she could to extricate herself from this monster, the monster she may have in part helped to create, by finally divulging the extent of his defect to an outside source, though too late to assuage her conscience and the five corpses which lie lifeless thereon.
Very eloquently put Steve, but the fact that she probably knew  speaks volumes.

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« Reply #100 on: August 01, 2016, 06:36:PM »
I do not think anyone on here who would have viewed the bodies of the twins, with hair shaved and
knew who had killed them would have kept quiet. I would have shopped my son.
JM said she knew, but said nothing.
The excuse of being young and in love does not wash.
I completely agree with you buddy, it's hard to believe anyone could behave the way she did.  I am particularly shocked by the fact that Julie and JB visited Colin and stayed the night at his flat.  It's quite shocking imo if she did as she later claimed already know |JB had killed everyone.

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« Reply #101 on: August 01, 2016, 06:37:PM »
people have done some wonderful things for love while others have commited the most hidious crimes for love.i agree jm's morals are terrible.but there you have it