Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.

[Steve_uk]

Reply #1449 there's more on Scott Lomax and Sheila.  http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2787.1440.html

[David1819]

Well I assume the answer would be that he either didn't want to attack someone with a gun or was less likely to physically assault a young woman as opposed to a man. By the way, where have all these people gone over the years..egap1, Graham. Lugg, Daniel Day, curiousessex, Shonapugs, Dolly Rochford Peel..

There left before I Joined  so I don't know

[Adam]

Grahame posted in his 'Minor notice' thread.

'I concede defeat to my betters on the forum and their arguments according to the evidence that we have access to have at last won over me and therefore I have nothing more to argue for'.

[Caroline]

The windows were freshly painted in June and July that year. The scratches on the window caused by the hacksaw did not exist prior to him entering via the window and hacksaw on the 16th. Thus he could not have entered via the Bathroom window on the night of the murder's.

Of course he could, just because he entered that way, doesn't mean he left scratches.

[buddy]

Well I assume the answer would be that he either didn't want to attack someone with a gun or was less likely to physically assault a young woman as opposed to a man. By the way, where have all these people gone over the years..egap1, Graham. Lugg, Daniel Day, curiousessex, Shonapugs, Dolly Rochford Peel..

Graham, and Lugg were one and the same. His wife was ill [hope she is well].
Shonapugs now posts on the red now. Dolly Rochford Peel is still here, but calls himself Roch
these days.

[David1819]

Of course he could, just because he entered that way, doesn't mean he left scratches.

No hacksaw marks on window  = no entry from that window

[maggie]

Graham, and Lugg were one and the same. His wife was ill [hope she is well].
Shonapugs now posts on the red now. Dolly Rochford Peel is still here, but calls himself Roch
these days.

Hi Steve, egap1, shonapugs and Daniel Day are all banned for life, think curiousessex got fed up. Graham/Lugg is ok but got sick of the forum.

[Caroline]

No hacksaw marks on window  = no entry from that window

Says you straight of the top of your head. Who said he used a hacksaw the first time? He mentioned gaining access previously with the use of a pen knife. That's a BIG BROOM you use for your 'sweeping statements'.

No scratches doesn't mean no entry! What you also fail to consider is that the window may have been left open either by the Bambers, or by Jeremy before leaving WHF. He also doesn't have to have used this particular window. Any window may have been left open - I doubt the police checked the windows that thoroughly given that they thought it was 4 murders and a suicide, especially when they had a witness who gave them half the story before entry. If a window wasn't latched properly, I doubt they even noticed and they opened windows themselves later in the morning so entry could have been accessed through any window with no evidence to show for it.

[David1819]

Says you straight of the top of your head. Who said he used a hacksaw the first time? He mentioned gaining access previously with the use of a pan knife. That's a BIG BROOM you use for your 'sweeping statements'. No scratches doesn't mean no entry!

They carried out "thorough" investigations of all the windows prior to Jeremy entering on the 16th and found no evidence of entry

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7774.msg367607.html#msg367607

B-B-But Mugsie said so! 

[Jane]

They carried out "thorough" investigations of all the windows prior to Jeremy entering on the 16th and found no evidence of entry

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7774.msg367607.html#msg367607

B-B-But Mugsie said so! 

That would be to make up for the thoroughness they put into not finding the scratch marks they weren't looking for?

[buddy]

Buddy couldn't answer any of my points. So just said 'read the flippin case', without elaborating. Which is really going to help Bamber. 

I would ask Buddy to ask David for his 2015 committed 'detailed' account of how Sheila committed the massacre. But David will just go silent.

Adam I do not read all your posts as they seem sooo long winded.
I am able to answer, but not to a post that is as long as war and peace.
Can you condense them please,as a lot of your post was repartition.

[David1819]

That would be to make up for the thoroughness they put into not finding the scratch marks they weren't looking for?

Read the transcripts I posted, there really is no need for me to elaborate

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7774.msg367607.html#msg367607

[Caroline]

They carried out "thorough" investigations of all the windows prior to Jeremy entering on the 16th and found no evidence of entry

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7774.msg367607.html#msg367607

B-B-But Mugsie said so! 

What signs would you expect them to find? They found scratches after he entered after the murders, so they should have found them the first time they looked? That's your logic? He wasn't being 'careful' the second time because he didn't care if he left a trace. Nothing to do with Julie, Jeremy entered AFTER being questioned about it - PROVING that he could get in when the window was locked.

We have read the transcripts before David, long before you joined the forum - I see you have 'latched' onto the window aspect as though this is the first time it has been discussed. Once again, many people got there before you so you're right, no need for you to elaborate! 

[David1819]

What signs would you expect them to find? They found scratches after he entered after the murders, so they should have found them the first time they looked? That's your logic? He wasn't being 'careful' the second time because he didn't care if he left a trace. Nothing to do with Julie, Jeremy entered AFTER being questioned about it - PROVING that he could get in when the window was locked.

We have read the transcripts before David, long before you joined the forum - I see you have 'latched' onto the window aspect as though this is the first time it has been discussed. Once again, many people got there before you so you're right, no need for you to elaborate! 

 

It was Adam that started this topic not me. 

Indeed Caroline no need to elaborate, I am sure you already understand all this from before you mysteriously and inexplicably decided to jump on the guilt ship. Thus you know your excuses don't hold water on this subject. But if a few people on here believe you that is job done I guess 

[sami]

It was Adam that started this topic not me. 

Indeed Caroline no need to elaborate, I am sure you already understand all this from before you mysteriously and inexplicably decided to jump on the guilt ship. Thus you know your excuses don't hold water on this subject. But if a few people on here believe you that is job done I guess 

jump ship.i dont think so.she saw through jb's lies and tricks. to her credit she gave him the benefit of doubt before finding the truth ,UNLIKE YOU.give it up david your knowledge on the case can never be comparable to caroline's