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Offline Adam

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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2016, 09:10:PM »
It would be a surprise if a police source was supplied which showed -

Bamber was under surveillance for poppy/opium growing.

Bamber was followed to WHF.

The surveillance saw Bamber find a hack saw by the bathroom window and use it to gain access into WHF.
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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2016, 09:16:PM »
It would be a surprise if a police source was supplied which showed -

Bamber was under surveillance for poppy/opium growing.

Bamber was followed to WHF.

The surveillance saw Bamber find a hack saw by the bathroom window and use it to gain access into WHF.
three interesting questions adam.that need answering

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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2016, 09:22:PM »
Is Bamber saying he found the hacksaw ? Or is he saying he brought one over to WHF ?

He told police he just needed a pen knife to get access via several windows. So why the hack saw marks ?
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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2016, 10:06:PM »
Agreed, all part of the act.

The windows were freshly painted in June and July that year. The scratches on the window caused by the hacksaw did not exist prior to him entering via the window and hacksaw on the 16th. Thus he could not have entered via the Bathroom window on the night of the murder's.


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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2016, 10:09:PM »
You really show you know nothing, just a chancer. Study the flippin case.

You've only just realised this  ;)

Ask Adam about Sheila not being able to find the bible because the house was "too big"

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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2016, 10:12:PM »
You've only just realised this  ;)

Ask Adam about Sheila not being able to find the bible because the house was "too big"
why dont you tell him.insted of involving a 3rd party :))

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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2016, 10:21:PM »
That was just one of 29 questions about the bible -


Did Sheila read the bible ? A source would be appreciated.

Are bibles personal things.

Would Sheila not bring her own bible to WHF ?

Would Sheila's own bible not be next to her ?

Did Sheila  get her extreme religious views from the bible. If so, which part ?

Did Sheila have her own religious books which gave her extreme religious views ?

If Sheila didn't read anything religious, or bring anything to WHF,  how did she get her extreme religious views.

Did Sheila bring her own religious books to WHF. If not, why not ?

If Sheila had her own religious books, why didn't she use one of these prior to committing suicide ?

If Sheila didn't bring her own religious books to WHF and did not read any, why was the bible next to her ?

Is it common for religious people who have committed suicide, to read the bible beforehand ?

Was Sheila calm and controlled enough to decide to get the bible before committing suicide ?

Did Sheila know where the bible was ?

If the bible was a part of Sheila's religious readings, why didn't she have her own bible ?

What page was the bible left open at . Did it relate to pre suicide reading ?

Why was blood on the bible if Sheila read it before shooting herself ?

If Sheila didn't read the bible after collecting it, before committing suicide, why did she bother going to get it ?

How did the bible end up on top of Sheila's blood on the carpet (TAC) ?

Would Sheila only decide to get the bible after killing four other people ?

When did Sheila write the alleged suicide note ?

Did Bamber know about June's bible ?

Would Bamber putting the bible next to Sheila support a religious murder/suicide theory ?

Would Bamber be in control enough to put the bible next to Sheila ?

Does the bible support suicide ?

Does the bible support murder ?

Does the bible support ritualistic cleansing ? 

Could Sheila read the bible in the dark ?

Why did Sheila shoot herself once upstairs. Read the bible and then go downstairs ? As claimed by the OS.
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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2016, 10:30:PM »
Buddy couldn't answer any of my points. So just said 'read the flippin case', without elaborating. Which is really going to help Bamber. 

I would ask Buddy to ask David for his 2015 committed 'detailed' account of how Sheila committed the massacre. But David will just go silent.
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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2016, 10:39:PM »
Buddy couldn't answer any of my points. So just said 'read the flippin case', without elaborating. Which is really going to help Bamber. 

I would ask Buddy to ask David for his 2015 committed 'detailed' account of how Sheila committed the massacre. But David will just go silent.
There is a scenario put forward by Scott Lomax for what it's worth(nothing) that amongst other things Sheila cut off Nevill's telephone call to his son by putting her finger on the cradle, whilst wielding the Anschutz rifle in her other hand..

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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2016, 10:42:PM »
There is a scenario put forward by Scott Lomax for what it's worth(nothing) that amongst other things Sheila cut off Nevill's telephone call to his son by putting her finger on the cradle, whilst wielding the Anschutz rifle in her other hand..

And then what ?
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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2016, 10:47:PM »
And then what ?
I don't think he specifically gives much detail, except to show via a photograph of a woman of similar height and build to Sheila(though not suffering from Tardive Dyskinesia) that she could have pulled the trigger with legs astraddle the rifle.

I'll have to check my post in egap1's book reviews thread on Lomax's book if anyone cares to trawl through past threads to bring it up..

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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2016, 10:52:PM »
I don't think he specifically gives much detail, except to show via a photograph of a woman of similar height and build to Sheila(though not suffering from Tardive Dyskinesia) that she could have pulled the trigger with legs astraddle the rifle.

I'll have to check my post in egap1's book reviews thread on Lomax's book if anyone cares to trawl through past threads to bring it up..

Not much detail. Now there is a surprise.

I assume Neville was fully fit when making this call. Sheila got within inches of him to press the receiver and Neville did nothing.
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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2016, 11:06:PM »
Not much detail. Now there is a surprise.

I assume Neville was fully fit when making this call. Sheila got within inches of him to press the receiver and Neville did nothing.
Well I assume the answer would be that he either didn't want to attack someone with a gun or was less likely to physically assault a young woman as opposed to a man. By the way, where have all these people gone over the years..egap1, Graham, Lugg, Daniel Day, curiousessex, Shonapugs, Dolly Rochford Peel..
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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2016, 11:06:PM »
Not much detail. Now there is a surprise.

I assume Neville was fully fit when making this call. Sheila got within inches of him to press the receiver and Neville did nothing.
good point adam ,nb would have disarmed her had this been the case

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Re: Bathroom window: Quick Q & A's and a conclusion.
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2016, 11:20:PM »
Well I assume the answer would be that he either didn't want to attack someone with a gun or was less likely to physically assault a young woman as opposed to a man. By the way, where have all these people gone over the years..egap1, Graham. Lugg, Daniel Day, curiousessex, Shonapugs, Dolly Rochford Peel..

He certainly didn't want to attack Sheila.

Who was holding a rifle used for shooting vermin. Preferring to ring Bamber. Thought he might have tried something when she stood next to him and cut the phone call off. But as you said, he didn't want to assault a young woman to save everyone's life.
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