Why the police did not attempt to get a covert audio confession from Bamber:

[JackiePreece]

Going back to the original topic. Even Mike and the CT have not claimed the police should have wired Julie up to coax a confession from Bamber.

This has never been done before. The Eliot Turner and Mick Philpot cases which David highlighted,  simply bugged a room and had no coaxing involved.

The only case similar is Colin Stagg, when the police used a paid and trained police woman as a honey trap. This case was thrown out in disgrace.

My thread post highlighting 24 reasons shows what a crazy idea this is. Hopefully David won't keep creating crazy theories to create discussion.

I can assure you it is done all the time and will be going on right now as we post  There are hundred of crimes carried out everyday.  Most of us only take note of the high profile cases.

It doesn't usually involve a partner as most partners who commit or take part (hitman) in premediated murder don't usually confess to anyone that isn't involved. 

[JackiePreece]

its hindsight .and if they did get a audio confession you and others would now be saying.jb was only playing along with jm or jm was coaxing him into saying it,he said it just to see what jm would think.cant win with you lot

It would depend how genuine it sounded I guess.  Had it have been available to play to the jury it may have been a unanimous verdict.

[David1819]

It would depend how genuine it sounded I guess.  Had it have been available to play to the jury it may have been a unanimous verdict.

If they did get an audio confession they may not even be a trial. They would arrest Jeremy play it to him and he would have plead no contest or a legal team would push an insanity defence.


It would certainly close the case. that's why its odd it was never attempted.

[sami]

It would depend how genuine it sounded I guess.  Had it have been available to play to the jury it may have been a unanimous verdict.

were there 2 female members of the jury that were in tears at the verdict

[guest7363]

A warrant I think.  Same sought of thing when they enter property for a search.  All in a days work for the police.

You could be wrong, the police are held to a higher standard when seeking these orders than when they are seeking a normal warrant.  They also have to show other avenues have been exhausted.

[sami]

If they did get an audio confession they may not even be a trial. They would arrest Jeremy play it to him and he would have plead no contest or a legal team would push an insanity defence.


It would certainly close the case. that's why its odd it was never attempted.

have you read my post about what he would have said if there was a audio tape obtained by bugging .a few posts earlier

[sami]

You could be wrong, the police are held to a higher standard when seeking these orders than when they are seeking a normal warrant.  They also have to show other avenues have been exhausted.

just as i thought .thank you justice

[JackiePreece]

If they did get an audio confession they may not even be a trial. They would arrest Jeremy play it to him and he would have plead no contest or a legal team would push an insanity defence.

It would certainly close the case. that's why its odd it was never attempted.

Agree 

I wonder why prosecuting counsel were unaware Jeremy was under surveillance 

[JackiePreece]

You could be wrong, the police are held to a higher standard when seeking these orders than when they are seeking a normal warrant.  They also have to show other avenues have been exhausted.

I have posted links to all the relevant legislation in this thread.

[JackiePreece]

were there 2 female members of the jury that were in tears at the verdict

I have read so.  Why do you ask?

[Adam]

If they did get an audio confession they may not even be a trial. They would arrest Jeremy play it to him and he would have plead no contest or a legal team would push an insanity defence.


It would certainly close the case. that's why its odd it was never attempted.

Bamber was abroad when Julie approached the police. They had a big row after she heard Bamber ask another woman out. There was no way he would want Julie back in his life. She had become an irritant.

As mentioned, it is unethical to ask a witness to attempt to coax a secret confession from Bamber. It had never been attempted before. The police had enough to convict and keep Bamber behind bars. As proven.

[sami]

I have read so.  Why do you ask?

because them 2 were too wrapped up flirting with jb ,to be able to do their job other wise it would have been unanimous

[JackiePreece]

because them 2 were too wrapped up flirting with jb ,to be able to do their job other wise it would have been unanimous

How do you know the two jurors that supposedly cried returned verdicts of not guilty?  Jurors often cry at the end of harrowing trials when the verdict is unanimous.

How could they flirt with Jeremy?  They wouldn't be able to interact with him at all. 

Never did get out on one of my two horses this evening 

[David1819]

because them 2 were too wrapped up flirting with jb ,to be able to do their job other wise it would have been unanimous

LOL Were on earth do you get this stuff?

[sami]

LOL Were on earth do you get this stuff?

the same place you get your crackpot idea's from