are the appeal court and the ccrc guilty of double standards

[sami]

So JB purposely put himself in the frame with everything he's alleged to have done,or not done ?
 This is how it reads from a guilty point of view. His actions,behaviour,dress,spending,holidays,etc etc.
Just as if !

ive given my answer in above posts

[lookout]

ive given my answer in above posts

Answer/s to what ? Certainly not to the post of 11.40. Explain to me why JB would purposely put himself in the frame.

[Caroline]

So JB purposely put himself in the frame with everything he's alleged to have done,or not done ?
 This is how it reads from a guilty point of view. His actions,behaviour,dress,spending,holidays,etc etc.
Just as if !

So you admit that his "actions, behaviour, dress, spending, holidays, etc etc" put him in the frame? 

Of course he didn't deliberately put himself in the frame, his arrogance did.

[sami]

Rubbish. Not so long ago in America,a child of 3 shot his mother ( dead ) after he'd found her gun at the backseat of the car they were travelling in.

whats the above got to do with this case

[David1819]

where is the gunshot residue on sheilas nightie

ELEY subsonic rimfire ammunition used non conventional propellants rendering such tests meaningless, They would come back negative is any situation. Even if JB did commit the crime you would still expect GSR on the nighty because you have two shots fired in very close proximity right above the nightie then you have a gun that has fired 25 shots placed onto of her chest.

Here is part of page 208 of the book Forensic Science From the Crime Scene to the Crime Lab by RICHARD SAFERSTEIN, PH.D. Forensic Science Consultant, Mt. Laurel


However, hand swabbing or the application of an adhesive cannot be
used to detect firings of most .22-caliber rim-fire ammunition. Such ammunition’s
primer may contain only barium or neither barium nor antimony


Here is an extract of page 101 of Current methods in forensic gunshot residue analysis by
A. J. Schwoeble and David L. Exline forensic scientists at RJ Lee Group


The manufactures of Remington rimfire ammunition is ELEY LTD


Now I have obtained a copy of the 1983 patent for that type of ammunition listing the ingredients
however I still cannot be sure its the exact production of the ammo used at whf

where is the gun oil from handling bullets on sheilas hands

The ELEY ammunition uses beeswax as lubricant not traditional gun oil.

take a look at the photo lemonhead kindly gave to me and see the path the bullet took.

Lemonheads photo is not accurate at all.

also where is the blood on sc nighty or do you think firing 25 shots some at point blank range there would be no back splatter.

A .22 calibre weapon produces very little back spatter. See the images below


Here is an experiment carried out with a handgun using a 9mm. As you can see if this was rifle the length between the shooter and the victim will be too far to land 


Also the nightie was never tested for micro splatter, had they not destroyed it modern tests could be done.

what about the life and death struggle in the kitchen

I am sceptical as to whether such a thing took place in the kitchen. There is no blunt force blood spatter around Nevilles body, the position of Neville's body is odd for a struggle also, some speculate he may have walked into the kitchen after being shot and injured then began to lose consciousness and collapsed into the position he was found in.

I would like to see NBs autopsy photos and X rays to make a more in depth assessment. before I come to any conclusions.

[lookout]

So you admit that his "actions, behaviour, dress, spending, holidays, etc etc" put him in the frame? 

Of course he didn't deliberately put himself in the frame, his arrogance did.

I haven't admitted anything. I was reiterrating what those who say he's guilty,say. Seemingly more concerned about behaviour and all the rest of it than getting down to the job of finding out who REALLY did it.
As for being " arrogant ",that's not a hanging offence either. Imagine being imprisoned for life just because you weren't seen as grieving ?

[Caroline]

I haven't admitted anything. I was reiterrating what those who say he's guilty,say. Seemingly more concerned about behaviour and all the rest of it than getting down to the job of finding out who REALLY did it.
As for being " arrogant ",that's not a hanging offence either. Imagine being imprisoned for life just because you weren't seen as grieving ?

You never do admit anything and that was the response I expected - but I don't think he was convicted for not grieving - he was convicted of murdering five innocent people.

[sami]

ELEY subsonic rimfire ammunition used non conventional propellants rendering such tests meaningless, They would come back negative is any situation. Even if JB did commit the crime you would still expect GSR on the nighty because you have two shots fired in very close proximity right above the nightie then you have a gun that has fired 25 shots placed onto of her chest.

Here is part of page 208 of the book Forensic Science From the Crime Scene to the Crime Lab by RICHARD SAFERSTEIN, PH.D. Forensic Science Consultant, Mt. Laurel


However, hand swabbing or the application of an adhesive cannot be
used to detect firings of most .22-caliber rim-fire ammunition. Such ammunition’s
primer may contain only barium or neither barium nor antimony


Here is an extract of page 101 of Current methods in forensic gunshot residue analysis by
A. J. Schwoeble and David L. Exline forensic scientists at RJ Lee Group


The manufactures of Remington rimfire ammunition is ELEY LTD


Now I have obtained a copy of the 1983 patent for that type of ammunition listing the ingredients
however I still cannot be sure its the exact production of the ammo used at whf




The ELEY ammunition uses beeswax as lubricant not traditional gun oil.

Lemonheads photo is not accurate at all.

A .22 calibre weapon produces very little back spatter. See the images below


Here is an experiment carried out with a handgun using a 9mm. As you can see if this was rifle the length between the shooter and the victim will be too far to land 


Also the nightie was never tested for micro splatter, had they not destroyed it modern tests could be done.

I am sceptical as to whether such a thing took place in the kitchen. There is no blunt force blood spatter around Nevilles body, the position of Neville's body is odd for a struggle also, some speculate he may have walked into the kitchen after being shot and injured then began to lose consciousness and collapsed into the position he was found in.

I would like to see NBs autopsy photos and X rays to make a more in depth assessment. before I come to any conclusions.

explain nb injurys never mind 1 report youve dug up there are others that will say oppisite to the above page you [posted any test regarding splatter must be done with a similar rifle and not a handgun.i will check and see about oil residue and what tests the lab did on this rifle .and i cant agree with you on the amount of gunshot residue would be on the firer or some stanmding near a rifle being fired.i beg to deffer that lying a rifle on top of a body would cause the same amount of dsr

[lookout]

whats the above got to do with this case

The moral being that a child of 3 can shoot someone dead !! Let alone a 27 year old woman. Age doesn't come into it,a gun is a gun a dangerous weapon in ANYONE'S hands.

[lookout]

You never do admit anything and that was the response I expected - but I don't think he was convicted for not grieving - he was convicted of murdering five innocent people.

I suggest you read that far-left trash known as " The Spectator " then. Suspicious because he didn't grieve.

[sami]

The moral being that a child of 3 can shoot someone dead !! Let alone a 27 year old woman. Age doesn't come into it,a gun is a gun a dangerous weapon in ANYONE'S hands.

was the 3 yearold bionic or superman i would like to see a 3yold hold up a real gun and have the strenth to pull the trigger

[Jane]

was the 3 yearold bionic or superman i would like to see a 3yold hold up a real gun and have the strenth to pull the trigger

I believe the 3 year old in question accidentally shot it's mother. What it didn't do was take a rifle and pump several bullets into the rest of it's family.

[lookout]

I believe the 3 year old in question accidentally shot it's mother. What it didn't do was take a rifle and pump several bullets into the rest of it's family.

You never know now it's got a taste of what happens. Even at 3 they know that guns kill ( in the States anyway ) possibly here with the amount of gun crime-------------so easy to use,even for a 27 year old woman in a frenzy.

[sami]

You never know now it's got a taste of what happens. Even at 3 they know that guns kill ( in the States anyway ) possibly here with the amount of gun crime-------------so easy to use,even for a 27 year old woman in a frenzy.

i doubt a 3 yearold knows what death is

[lookout]

i doubt a 3 yearold knows what death is

They mightn't know about death,but they know about falling and not getting up again.

American kids are pretty bright. One 7 year old on TV the other night,testified against his mother in a murder case and his testament sent her down for life.