What makes Bamber innocent?

[John]

That just really demonstrates how knowledgeable you really are...

Two pages 5 and 6, retyped by a totally different typewriter, and inserted into the middle of a statement which started off as a 9 page statement, which had its original page 5 'removed', had the original page 6's page number, tippexed out and altered to 7, the original page 7 had its page number tippexed out and altered to 8, the original page 8 had its page number tippexed out, and altered to 9, and the original page 9, having its page number tippexed out, and altered into 10...

The cop didn't even make his own witness statement, it was made 'for him' by another dodgy cop, who falsly claimed that he had a right to make the other cops statement for him, because they made their notes up together before they both went off duty in the early hours of 26th Januaury, 1987. But, hey, guess what, the cop who made the other cops witness statement on the premis that they had got the same notes recorded in each others notebooks which they made up together at the end of the shift, did not get his notebook issued to him until 31st January, 1987 by a Detective Inspector (Clough), so 'hey presto', cop lied on oath to the jury. Do you know what that means bozo? It means that not only did the cop not make his own statement, but the cop who made his statement for him in his absence, told 'a lie' to the court, to the judge, to the prosecution, to the defence, and to the jury, about the reason why he said he was entitled to make up another officers witness statement in his absence. He hadn't been issued with his notebook until the 31st January, 1987, so he could hardly have made those notes in it with the other officer before they had gone off duty that night...

Do things sound familiar, bozo?

South Yorkshire Police, 1987/ 1988, falls bang in the middle between the miners strike (Orgreave), 1985, and of course, 'Hillsboro', 1989...

I was on the picket line at Orgreave, bozo...

You can smirk all you like about my demise, bozo, but at least I am not a lying, evil, despicable, low life bent copper, and I will have my day of justice, sooner or later. It's just a matter of time, before cops from this region are made to answer for everything wrong that they have done to me, and others like me in their reign of terror and corruption. Bent cops in this region in this era made the law up as they went along...

I'll get my day of 'justice', sooner, or later, do you know why, bozo? Because I am still a very strong minded person. Bent cops haven't broken my spirit, neither has the fact that I served the sentences they threw at me like confetti. But I am still here, still complaining, still fighting, and that will be the case until I die...

   you didn't answer my question about hiding in the attic?

So you are a career burglar with numerous convictions?

[mike tesko]

No need, it's all very clear to most people what occurred.  The CCRC certainly never found anything wrong with the police account.

Why do you think the CCRC were formed in 2000?

[mike tesko]

  you didn't answer my question about hiding in the attic?

So you were a serial burglar?

Get a brain, bozo...

The re-typed pages (5 & 6) which cop inserted into the body of the statement dealt with the man in the loft escaping out onto the roof, throwing roof tiles at cops, before making good his escape - bthere's nothing further to say...

[John]

Why do you think the CCRC were formed in 2000?

The CCRC found nothing capable of supporting Bamber and that includes the police radio despatches.

Now about that claimed photo of Sheila on the bed...  are you going to back up your claim and post it?

[mike tesko]

I don't do fiction.  I thought you had all the answers, its a simple question.

Where did the second imaginary body disappear to?  You know, the one which everyone thought was dead but was magically able to walk upstairs and get shot again. 

I can't wait to hear your explanation.

Funny, that...

You don't do fiction, yet you choose to accept that when cops entered the kitchen they only found dads body, and that when they got upstairs they found Sheila's body, without any consideration to the 'facts' reported and documented in these police radio message logs, that 'two bodies' had been found 'downstairs in the kitchen', a 'male' body and a 'female' body, a 'murder', and a 'suicide', and only 'a further three bodies found upstairs', by 8.10am, 'excluding Sheila', 'five dead, in total'?

[John]

Funny, that...

You don't do fiction, yet you choose to accept that when cops entered the kitchen they only found dads body, and that when they got upstairs they found Sheila's body, without any consideration to the 'facts' reported and documented in these police radio message logs, that 'two bodies' had been found 'downstairs in the kitchen', a 'male' body and a 'female' body, a 'murder', and a 'suicide', and only 'a further three bodies found upstairs', by 8.10am, 'excluding Sheila', 'five dead, in total'?

The two bodies found downstairs was an error.  Shit happens...get over it ffs!

[mike tesko]

The CCRC was set up in 2000 to prevent cases like the Birmingham Six, and the Guidford Four, cases, reaching the court of appeal and getting their convictions overturned, thus causing damage to the integrity of the criminal justice system. The Government does not want any more 'big cases' like the Bamber case, getting convictions overturned. All the CCRC are concerned with is referring lesser known cases back to the court of appeal, on the flimsiest of grounds, to boost their referral figures, whilst the more serious cases hardly ever get a look in...

[mike tesko]

The two bodies found downstairs was an error.  Shit happens...get over it ffs!

I suppose your also going to say, that only three bodies found upstairs by 8.10am, was also an error?

Garbage...

[mike tesko]

That just really demonstrates how knowledgeable you really are...

Two pages 5 and 6, retyped by a totally different typewriter, and inserted into the middle of a statement which started off as a 9 page statement, which had its original page 5 'removed', had the original page 6's page number, tippexed out and altered to 7, the original page 7 had its page number tippexed out and altered to 8, the original page 8 had its page number tippexed out, and altered to 9, and the original page 9, having its page number tippexed out, and altered into 10...

The cop didn't even make his own witness statement, it was made 'for him' by another dodgy cop, who falsly claimed that he had a right to make the other cops statement for him, because they made their notes up together before they both went off duty in the early hours of 26th Januaury, 1987. But, hey, guess what, the cop who made the other cops witness statement on the premis that they had got the same notes recorded in each others notebooks which they made up together at the end of the shift, did not get his notebook issued to him until 31st January, 1987 by a Detective Inspector (Clough), so 'hey presto', cop lied on oath to the jury. Do you know what that means bozo? It means that not only did the cop not make his own statement, but the cop who made his statement for him in his absence, told 'a lie' to the court, to the judge, to the prosecution, to the defence, and to the jury, about the reason why he said he was entitled to make up another officers witness statement in his absence. He hadn't been issued with his notebook until the 31st January, 1987, so he could hardly have made those notes in it with the other officer before they had gone off duty that night...

Do things sound familiar, bozo?

South Yorkshire Police, 1987/ 1988, falls bang in the middle between the miners strike (Orgreave), 1985, and of course, 'Hillsboro', 1989...

I was on the picket line at Orgreave, bozo...

You can smirk all you like about my demise, bozo, but at least I am not a lying, evil, despicable, low life bent copper, and I will have my day of justice, sooner or later. It's just a matter of time, before cops from this region are made to answer for everything wrong that they have done to me, and others like me in their reign of terror and corruption. Bent cops in this region in this era made the law up as they went along...

I'll get my day of 'justice', sooner, or later, do you know why, bozo? Because I am still a very strong minded person. Bent cops haven't broken my spirit, neither has the fact that I served the sentences they threw at me like confetti. But I am still here, still complaining, still fighting, and that will be the case until I die...

Oh, Look...

PS Woodcock added a page of content into his witness statement, typed out by use of a different type writer, at the very part of his statement when 'he entered the kitchen'. I suppose that's an error as well?

The truth is, bent cops are so useless at doing their job properly that they have to fabricate evidence here, there, and everywhere. Same tactics, no matter what the case they get involved in...

[Jane]

That's what it states, in dads phone log, 3.26am...

I really have no idea when it came to you that you'd appear more intimately involved and concerned by referring to Nevill as "dad" but it doesn't sit well at all.................if anything, it's a tad disrespectful given that he isn't your "Dad" and he belongs to that status of person whom you most despise. ie middle class, wealthy and a member of the judiciary.

[Jane]

There is nothing that you or any of your followers, or supporters can say, that I don't have an answer for, yet you 'ignore' the 'facts' because you can't give a satisfactory answer...

Your losing it...

Dear Mike, I'm certain, that given your penchant for word/fact manipulation, there is NOTHING you can't provide AN answer for, but the bottom line is about the truth -which you haven't yet provided- NOT about your undoubted ability to play word games.

[mike tesko]

You knew who I meant though, eh?

[Jane]

You knew who I meant though, eh?

The world and his wife are aware that Nevill Bamber was Jeremy's father but it doesn't earn them the right to refer to him as "dad".

[mike tesko]

Dear Mike, I'm certain, that given your penchant for word/fact manipulation, there is NOTHING you can't provide AN answer for, but the bottom line is about the truth -which you haven't yet provided- NOT about your undoubted ability to play word games.

Yes, I have gone a considerable way toward providing evidence of the truth. It's just that 'others' are in denial of the truth. They can't seem to see beyond the end of their own noses. The facts are clear and unambiguous, 'two bodies in the kitchen upon entry. It"s there in 'black and white' for all to see. Two bodies, including dads body. The second body after dads body has already been mentioned, I might add, in the very same sentences on two occasions, refers to 'and the body of one dead female', and 'one dead female'. No doubt whatsoever that a female was identified in the kitchen after cops inside the kitchen had already accounted for dads body. A fact reinforced by a further message timed at 8.10am, confirming only another 'three bodies found upstairs', by that stage. Two bodies downstairs, three bodies upstairs, five dead in total...

That is the truth, confirmed in writing, confirmed by messages that were being passed from the scene back to the control room by cops, not J, not anybody who had no right to be there. Has anybody ever stopped to think about 'Why' if all the bodies had been found and accounted for by 8.10am, why it took so long for SOCO to be allowed to start taking photographs of where the bodies ended up after 8.10am? What was holding everything up inside the farmhouse for 'one hour and fifty minutes'?

[Jane]

Yes, I have gone a considerable way toward providing evidence of the truth. It's just that 'others' are in denial of the truth. They can't seem to see beyond the end of their own noses. The facts are clear and unambiguous, 'two bodies in the kitchen upon entry. It"s there in 'black and white' for all to see. Two bodies, including dads body. The second body after dads body has already been mentioned, I might add, in the very same sentences on two occasions, refers to 'and the body of one dead female', and 'one dead female'. No doubt whatsoever that a female was identified in the kitchen after cops inside the kitchen had already accounted for dads body. A fact reinforced by a further message timed at 8.10am, confirming only another 'three bodies found upstairs', by that stage. Two bodies downstairs, three bodies upstairs, five dead in total...

That is the truth, confirmed in writing, confirmed by messages that were being passed from the scene back to the control room by cops, not J, not anybody who had no right to be there. Has anybody ever stopped to think about 'Why' if all the bodies had been found and accounted for by 8.10am, why it took so long for SOCO to be allowed to start taking photographs of where the bodies ended up after 8.10am? What was holding everything up inside the farmhouse for 'one hour and fifty minutes'?

My Papa was brilliant at taking the headline and first paragraph of a newspaper and rearranging to to mean something entirely other than what was intended. It amused him to do it. You appear to have something of his talent but you can't blame ANYONE for not taking you seriously given the number of LUDICROUS and conflicting "facts" -TRUTHS!!!!!!!!!- that you've presented us with. A PERFECT example being the picture of "Sheila on the bed with one wound". You had it in your possession. I believe you said you nicked it from Jeremy's solicitor? -I recall, naive and trusting idiot that I was, begging you to pass it to Jeremy's team/the media. You said the time wasn't right!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then there was something about you being burgled? or was it to do with Special Branch or the KGB or Gremlins warning you off? Remind me please, exactly what WAS the outcome? Oh yes. Out of the blue came the information that Jeremy no longer needed said picture...................WHAT??? A pic of his dead -ALIVE, as you'd have us believe!!!!!!!- sister laying on a bed, genitals exposed, with only ONE bullet wound, and Jeremy no longer needs it? Strange that all those agencies should have put themselves about for something so worthless don't you think?  Nonetheless, you can spin a good story and I frequently find, what you say, both amusing and entertaining.............however I reserve the right to refuse to allow my intelligence to be insulted.