What makes Bamber innocent?

[Steve_uk]

I think I asked this question before but didn't get a satisfactory answer: at what time did WPC Jeapes see the Anschutz rifle in the window and was it before or after the Raid Team made their ingress into the Farm?

[John]

There is 'loads of evidence' not yet heard at trial, or during an appeal. You must be deluded and frightened that if all this fresh evidence ever got raised in a court of law, that judges of appeal would be hard pushed to ignore the significance of it all. The cops that were involved in successfully prosecuting and convicting J of these murders are vile evil bastards. How could they concoct all these lies to try and convict an innocent man of such an awful crime? Despicable cops, nothing more, nothing less...

No there's not otherwise the CCRC would have put it forward.  Lets face it, this case is at a dead end!

The child murderer is the vile evil bastard in my book!

[John]

I'm not agreeing with you, I am just stating a fact. The anshuzt rifle remained at the bedroom window from 7.15am, onward, otherwise cops would have reported its movement. Because they didn't, means it remained at the window, and would have been at the window when cops downstairs in the kitchen reported 'two bodies' present in the kitchen, a male, and a female. Note that a male body was reported before the report of a female body? This was 'after' cops had entered the kitchen, so this puts PC Collins nonsense to bed, once and for ever...

Actually the police officer who initially looked in the kitchen window reported a female victim later changed to a male victim on entry.

NOTE:  'Changed to' and not 'In addition to'

ie One victim in the kitchen downstairs.

[mike tesko]

SHE DIDN'T!  Jeremy Bamber shot her TWICE!

No, he didn't. You weren't there, and you are ignoring indisputable facts. Two bodies in the kitchen by 7.37am,  a further three bodies upstairs by 8.10am. Cops involved stated that, there can be no further evidence required to get to the truth. Once a bent cop, always a bent cop. You know as well as I do, that cops fucked up big time by disclosing the police radio log messages which contain all this damning information. Worse still, despite disclosing these logs in error, nobody has come forward to deny the contents, except prosecution supporters. Er, why can't cops who passed the key messages speak for themselves?

[mike tesko]

THAT wasn't the point I was making. Whatever "time" you insist on, Jeremy's status, as the only informant was "the informant".

But not the caller of the 3.26am call, so he wasn't and couldn't have been the informant on that occasion...

[John]

No, he didn't. You weren't there, and you are ignoring indisputable facts. Two bodies in the kitchen by 7.37am,  a further three bodies upstairs by 8.10am. Cops involved stated that, there can be no further evidence required to get to the truth. Once a bent cop, always a bent cop. You know as well as I do, that cops fucked up big time by disclosing the police radio log messages which contain all this damning information. Worse still, despite disclosing these logs in error, nobody has come forward to deny the contents, except prosecution supporters. Er, why can't cops who passed the key messages speak for themselves?

You weren't there either.  One body in the kitchen, any idiot can see that!

There's nothing damning in the police logs, merely your own twisted interpretation of them.

[John]

But not the caller of the 3.26am call, so he wasn't and couldn't have been the informant on that occasion...

Considering there only ever was one call EVIDENCED BY THE DOCUMENTS and onlyone informant then one can quite rightly infer that it was Jeremy who told police about the guns in order to set the scene for his murderous masterplan.

[mike tesko]

Certainly he would have done had Nevill actually phoned the police but we know he didn't.

Dad did make such a call, hence why when PC West requested J to go to the farmhouse, he told him not to approach the farmhouse until police arrived at the scene. Now, why would West tell J not to do this if J had supplied the information recorded in Malcolm Bonnets 3.26am phone log contents?

[mike tesko]

No there's not otherwise the CCRC would have put it forward.  Lets face it, this case is at a dead end!

The child murderer is the vile evil bastard in my book!

No, he is not evil, and he did not kill anybody, cops killed Sheila, they know it, I know it, and the whole wide world is going to be hearing about it...

Evil cops and relatives who framed him are the vile bastards, along with those who blindly follow cops like these, and those, as if butter wouldn't melt in their mouths...

[John]

Dad did make such a call, hence why when PC West requested J to go to the farmhouse, he told him not to approach the farmhouse until police arrived at the scene. Now, why would West tell J not to do this if J had supplied the information recorded in Malcolm Bonnets 3.26am phone log contents?

Jeremy reported an armed siege at the farmhouse, quite naturally West would have told him to go there immediately but stand back until police arrive.

[mike tesko]

I think I asked this question before but didn't get a satisfactory answer: at what time did WPC Jeapes see the Anschutz rifle in the window and was it before or after the Raid Team made their ingress into the Farm?

Just after her arrival at 7am, when she had been deployed as a containment officer...

[John]

No, he is not evil, and he did not kill anybody, cops killed Sheila, they know it, I know it, and the whole wide world is going to be hearing about it...

Evil cops and relatives who framed him are the vile bastards, along with those who blindly follow cops like these, and those, as if butter wouldn't melt in their mouths...

Yes, you've been claiming this for years but to no avail.  Nobody believes you.  Bamber brought his destruction down upon his own head by his own actions.  He got his due desserts.

[Jane]

No, he didn't. You weren't there, and you are ignoring indisputable facts. Two bodies in the kitchen by 7.37am,  a further three bodies upstairs by 8.10am. Cops involved stated that, there can be no further evidence required to get to the truth. Once a bent cop, always a bent cop. You know as well as I do, that cops fucked up big time by disclosing the police radio log messages which contain all this damning information. Worse still, despite disclosing these logs in error, nobody has come forward to deny the contents, except prosecution supporters. Er, why can't cops who passed the key messages speak for themselves?

Forgive the observation, Mike, but I don't recall that you were there, either...................and surely, if one is to say "once a bent copper................." one must also say "once a bent anyone................."?

[mike tesko]

Actually the police officer who initially looked in the kitchen window reported a female victim later changed to a male victim on entry.

NOTE:  'Changed to' and not 'In addition to'

ie One victim in the kitchen downstairs.

You don't get it do you, full of dishonesty, even in retirement. The mistake made by Collins at the kitchen window (outside) which he rectified once 'he' entered the kitchen. That body was 'only' one body, one of the two bodies reported as being present in the kitchen at that time 7.37am). Dads body reported first, followed by Sheila's body. A murder, and a suicide, by 7,45am...

After 8.10am, a further three bodies found upstairs...

[mike tesko]

You weren't there either.  One body in the kitchen, any idiot can see that!

There's nothing damning in the police logs, merely your own twisted interpretation of them.

Once a bent cop, always a bent cop...

Cops passed the messages that two bodies found in kitchen upon entry (7.37 and 7.38am), within 7 minutes, cops were informing the control room that one of these two deaths was a murder, the other, the second death was a suicide...

Cops stated this, trained cops, who supposedly knew what they were doing...

Pathetic specimens of a human being.. Cowardly dishonest cops, bending the truth to keep themselves out of the shit. They shot an unharmed Sheila Caffell, twice, for gods sake, once downstairs whilst the anshuzt rifle was still resting against the upstairs bedroom window, and secondly, they shot her upstairs once the anshuzt rifle had been brought from the window to her body...