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Offline Caroline

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Question for David1819
« on: April 10, 2016, 11:32:PM »
Hi David, you will notice that I haven't commented on your 'NEW' evidence? However I have to ask if it has anything to do with my OWN historical research on the bible stains being on the wrong side to coincide with the 2002 appeal findings? The palm print and the ramifications of such? I have looked at things you have posted and find that this could well be what you are referring to - in which case you are not being honest - also there are things you don't know about these claims, things that could put Jeremy straight in the firing line if this ever were to form submissions. If it is this, you should have asked me before going down the road you have!

You haven't read PH's book - if this is your BIG revelation - you SHOULD HAVE!!

The following is history of the bible and the palm print - if I am wrong I apologise and will wait for you to post your NEW UNRELATED findings, but I am pretty confident that you took my research and are claiming it for your own. Please tell me I I am wrong?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3036.msg113377.html#msg113377
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3118.msg119408.html#msg119408
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4616.msg191520.html#msg191520

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6884.msg320619.html#msg320619
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7292.msg352948.html#msg352948

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5260.msg225875.html#msg225875
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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2016, 12:28:AM »
Hi David, you will notice that I haven't commented on your 'NEW' evidence? However I have to ask if it has anything to do with my OWN historical research on the bible stains being on the wrong side to coincide with the 2002 appeal findings? The palm print and the ramifications of such? I have looked at things you have posted and find that this could well be what you are referring to - in which case you are not being honest - also there are things you don't know about these claims, things that could put Jeremy straight in the firing line if this ever were to form submissions. If it is this, you should have asked me before going down the road you have!

You haven't read PH's book - if this is your BIG revelation - you SHOULD HAVE!!

The following is history of the bible and the palm print - if I am wrong I apologise and will wait for you to post your NEW UNRELATED findings, but I am pretty confident that you took my research and are claiming it for your own. Please tell me I I am wrong?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3036.msg113377.html#msg113377
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3118.msg119408.html#msg119408
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4616.msg191520.html#msg191520

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6884.msg320619.html#msg320619
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7292.msg352948.html#msg352948

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5260.msg225875.html#msg225875

No response David?
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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2016, 12:42:AM »
Hi David, you will notice that I haven't commented on your 'NEW' evidence? However I have to ask if it has anything to do with my OWN historical research on the bible stains being on the wrong side to coincide with the 2002 appeal findings? The palm print and the ramifications of such? I have looked at things you have posted and find that this could well be what you are referring to - in which case you are not being honest - also there are things you don't know about these claims, things that could put Jeremy straight in the firing line if this ever were to form submissions. If it is this, you should have asked me before going down the road you have!

You haven't read PH's book - if this is your BIG revelation - you SHOULD HAVE!!

The following is history of the bible and the palm print - if I am wrong I apologise and will wait for you to post your NEW UNRELATED findings, but I am pretty confident that you took my research and are claiming it for your own. Please tell me I I am wrong?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3036.msg113377.html#msg113377
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3118.msg119408.html#msg119408
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4616.msg191520.html#msg191520

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6884.msg320619.html#msg320619
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7292.msg352948.html#msg352948

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5260.msg225875.html#msg225875

I have agreed not to reveal what I have found. It's never been posted on the forum before.

Most of those links you provide are topics years before I joined the forum and I have not read them.

If you have a question for me in particular just PM me :)










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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2016, 12:50:AM »
I have agreed not to reveal what I have found. It's never been posted on the forum before.

Most of those links you provide are topics years before I joined the forum and I have not read them.

If you have a question for me in particular just PM me :)

But you have commented and are fully aware that the research isn't yours

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7292.msg352948.html#msg352948

But like I said, you don't know the full extent of this and are leading Jeremy into a dangerous path - especially when you state that he couldn't have 'set it up'. I won't be PM'ing you - but you SHOULD have PM'd me and your reply confirms my suspicions. You should read PH's book before you tried to pass off someone else's findings as your own. I did wonder why you had spent so long looking at my posts - I'm not the only one to have noticed.  ;)
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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2016, 01:04:AM »
But you have commented and are fully aware that the research isn't yours

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7292.msg352948.html#msg352948

But like I said, you don't know the full extent of this and are leading Jeremy into a dangerous path - especially when you state that he couldn't have 'set it up'. I won't be PM'ing you - but you SHOULD have PM'd me and your reply confirms my suspicions. You should read PH's book before you tried to pass off someone else's findings as your own. I did wonder why you had spent so long looking at my posts - I'm not the only one to have noticed.  ;)

I repeat

I have agreed not to reveal what I have found. It's never been posted on the forum before.


If you believe Jeremy is guilty you cannot have come across it. Because if you did you would not believe him guilty.

PH is a joke. He may live on an island and get lonely but that's no excuse to make up fictional phone calls from Brett Collins

« Last Edit: April 11, 2016, 01:06:AM by David1819 »

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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2016, 01:11:AM »
I repeat

I have agreed not to reveal what I have found. It's never been posted on the forum before.


If you believe Jeremy is guilty you cannot have come across it. Because if you did you would not believe him guilty.

PH is a joke. He may live on an island and get lonely but that's no excuse to make up fictional phone calls from Brett Collins

If you believe Jeremy is guilty

You have confirmed you have stolen my research by not denying it, if this wasn't what you are claiming to be NEW evidence, you would have said so - you're BUSTED David and no amount of ranting can take away from that. Whatever you think of PH, there is a DETAILED account of MY research printed on pages 174-5. So you have found NOTHING you have simply copied someone else's idea but you only know HALF of the story.

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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2016, 01:24:AM »
What has never been posted on the forum before? That the stain is on the wrong side of the bible - according to the 2002 appeal? BS, yes it has MANY TIMES, that the stain looks like a palm print? MANY TIMES.

You took someone else's idea, passed it off as your own and have probably added your own slant but basically you have claimed it for you own - the WHOLE THING! - if you try and do that, you will be on a hiding to nowhere because it already been published! Ironically, the thing you're peddling as your own, and being congratulated for by a certain poster is they VERY piece of research that I had published in a book that very same posted rubbishes! You couldn't make this up!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: April 11, 2016, 01:25:AM by Caroline »
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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2016, 01:24:AM »
You have confirmed you have stolen my research by not denying it, if this wasn't what you are claiming to be NEW evidence, you would have said so - you're BUSTED David and no amount of ranting can take away from that. Whatever you think of PH, there is a DETAILED account of MY research printed on pages 174-5. So you have found NOTHING you have simply copied someone else's idea but you only know HALF of the story.

I have not read PH book. Nor have I read your posts from years back.

If it makes you feel better I did tell NGB1066 via PM that it would not surprise if someone in the DPP or Crown prosecution had already spotted it long ago hoping JBs defence would not figure it out.

Like I said, your convinced of the mans guilt thus you could not have worked out what I have because if you did you would not believe him guilty. 


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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2016, 01:29:AM »
I have not read PH book. Nor have I read your posts from years back.

If it makes you feel better I did tell NGB1066 via PM that it would not surprise if someone in the DPP or Crown prosecution had already spotted it long ago hoping JBs defence would not figure it out.

Like I said, your convinced of the mans guilt thus you could not have worked out what I have because if you did you would not believe him guilty.

You have been busted David - thinking you could make money from someone else's research? What you don't know is the FULL story and you may have done more harm or at the least, caused more suspicion. I told you to WRITE to Jeremy and ask he what you wanted to know. However, if you were going to use my research (and you have read it), you should have had the decency to ask me about it and I might have given you some advice. Now you just look silly!  ::)
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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2016, 01:33:AM »
What has never been posted on the forum, that the stain is on the wrong side of the bible - according to the 2002 appeal. BS, yes it has MANY TIMES, that the stain looks like a palm print? MANY TIMES.

You took someone else's idea, passed it off as your own and have probably added your own slant but basically you have claimed it for you own - the WHOLE THING! - if you try and do that, you will be on a hiding to nowhere because it already been published! Ironically, the thing you're peddling as your own, and being congratulated for by a certain poster is they VERY piece of research that I had published in a book that very same posted rubbishes! You couldn't make this up!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Except you have made this up.

If I was the type of person to steal work and claim it for my own glory why would I keep quiet about it and hand it over to his lawyers for nothing?

If I stole something from PHs book Jeremy's defence would have known about before I gave it to them yet they didn't.


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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2016, 01:41:AM »
Except you have made this up.

If I was the type of person to steal work and claim it for my own glory why would I keep quiet about it and hand it over to his lawyers for nothing?

If I stole something from PHs book Jeremy's defence would have known about before I gave it to them yet they didn't.

You kept it quite because you didn't want anyone to know what it was because they would know where it came from! Are you denying that what you are putting forward is the palm print and it being on the wrong side to be on the side of the bible to be from the pool of blood as described bu the 2002 appeal? Because if you are there are few here who would believe that you came to this independently - especially as you have taken part in discussions where it was clear that the argument was not yours! AND I will repeat, there is one fundamental point which you aren't aware of and it would screw your augment that Jeremy couldn't are arranged the palm print!

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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2016, 01:48:AM »
You know fine well what you have done and everyone else will whether they want to admit it or not. I have argued these points extensively  but it does now clarify what you mean when you told 'me' that I would be laughing when I 'found out what is was', But I am David, I'm laughing because I do know what it is, and that you didn't discover it nor do you know the ramifications!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2016, 01:48:AM »
You have been busted David - thinking you could make money from someone else's research? What you don't know is the FULL story and you may have done more harm or at the least, caused more suspicion. I told you to WRITE to Jeremy and ask he what you wanted to know. However, if you were going to use my research (and you have read it), you should have had the decency to ask me about it and I might have given you some advice. Now you just look silly!  ::)

The money was my Dads idea not mine but instead I gave it to JBs legal for nothing.

I have not read PH book end of. only one looking silly here is yourself

If someone has come across MY findings before me then off course I will admit to it. Your claims have no merit.

your saying i stole a guilters work to prove JB innocent? your crazy

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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2016, 01:56:AM »
The money was my Dads idea not mine but instead I gave it to JBs legal for nothing.

I have not read PH book end of. only one looking silly here is yourself

If someone has come across MY findings before me then off course I will admit to it. Your claims have no merit.

your saying i stole a guilters work to prove JB innocent? your crazy

David, you're busted but you don't know the half of it. Next time just do your OWN research and use some honesty.

You know you stole my idea (hence your comment) but that's for your conscience if you have one! You have been a member here long enough and have actually commented on threads where I have argued these points so you have no leg to stand on.
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Re: Question for David1819
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2016, 02:07:AM »
David, you're busted but you don't know the half of it. Next time just do your OWN research and use some honesty.

You know you stole my idea (hence your comment) but that's for your conscience if you have one! You have been a member here long enough and have actually commented on threads where I have argued these points so you have no leg to stand on.

I did do my own research. If I stole anything from the forum don't you think NGB would have noticed?

If it was published in PH book don't you think AH and JB would have already known about it?

I have remained silent about MY findings because of other peoples advice. Your rants against me are totally unjustified.