the most likely scenario as i see it

[Caroline]

No. That's where I KNOW she got it from. The probability that Jeremy confesses to Julie and deliberately gives her false information about the crime scene that just so happens to be the same false information police gave EA and RB goes against astronomical odds.

No you don't.

[David1819]

No you don't.

Yes I do.

There is a reason why forensic science is used, its because what people say is not reliable.

I am not going to believe JB is guilty based on the dubious word of an ex-girlfriend.

Ever wondered why police never tried putting an audio recorder on Julie or recording a telephone conversation while instructing Julie to bring up a conversation with JB about his "confession"? That would have got them undeniable proof! but they didn't I wonder why? 

[sami]

Yes I do.

There is a reason why forensic science is used, its because what people say is not reliable.

I am not going to believe JB is guilty based on the dubious word of an ex-girlfriend.

Ever wondered why police never tried putting an audio recorder on Julie or recording a telephone conversation while instructing Julie to bring up a conversation with JB about his "confession"? That would have got them undeniable proof! but they didn't I wonder why? 

hind sight is a good thing but maybe ep werent as smart as you to think of setting him up .what would putting a audio recorder on julie be used for.you can understand what she has said by reading her statement.why all the effort and expense of setting jb up when they could easily have stuck with the original findings 4 murders an 1 suiside.case closed.all this talk of fitting up with absolutly no proof he was fitted up

[JackiePreece]

hind sight is a good thing but maybe ep werent as smart as you to think of setting him up .what would putting a audio recorder on julie be used for.you can unstand what she has said by reading her statement.why all the effort and expense of setting jb up when they could easily have stuck with the original findings 4 murders an 1 suiside.case closed.all this talk of fitting up with absolutly no proof he was fitted up

Why would they want to stick with 4 murders and 1 suicide when the relatives convinced the police otherwise?  Most of the case against Jeremy was put together by the relatives.  The windows, bike, route to the farm, wetsuit, Sheila not using guns, Sheila having poor coordination, and the jewel in the crown the silencer!

[JackiePreece]

Yes I do.

There is a reason why forensic science is used, its because what people say is not reliable.

I am not going to believe JB is guilty based on the dubious word of an ex-girlfriend.

Ever wondered why police never tried putting an audio recorder on Julie or recording a telephone conversation while instructing Julie to bring up a conversation with JB about his "confession"? That would have got them undeniable proof! but they didn't I wonder why? 

Great post David.  The police put Jeremy under surveillance so why not wire Julie up?

I remember the Colin Stagg case where the police tried to get a taped confession by setting a honeytrap and failed miserably.  Reason they failed Colin Stagg was innocent.   Robert Napper a paranoid schizophrenic was latter charged and found guilty.

[lookout]

Why are you posting your BIG conspiracy theory post as proof? Big arrogant David! And you can't explain with ANY credibility why the police would add MM into the mix.

Now now,don't get shirty,Gertie.

[sami]

Why would they want to stick with 4 murders and 1 suicide when the relatives convinced the police otherwise?  Most of the case against Jeremy was put together by the relatives.  The windows, bike, route to the farm, wetsuit, Sheila not using guns, Sheila having poor coordination, and the jewel in the crown the silencer!

jb best friend taff jones was happy to say it was the above .the relatives put the thought in the minds of the police but it was them that showed sheila did not do it .you know sheila not using guns is true apart jb only one other person says saw her handle a gun not fire it nor load it just handle it so its open to interpitation.you keep forgetting that 10 of 12 jury memmbers believed it

[Jane]

jb best friend taff jones was happy to say it was the above .the relatives put the thought in the minds of the police but it was them that showed sheila did not do it .you know sheila not using guns is true apart jb only one other person says saw here handle a gun not fire it nor load it just handle it so its open to interpitation.you keep forgetting that 10 of 12 jury memmbers believed it

That's a valid point, Sami. It seems that there were no more persons willing to come forward to say Sheila had herself a ball at every shooting party/shot with the best of the guns, than there were those prepared to  come forward to give Jeremy a character reference.

[sami]

jackie you caption under your posts .are sure it was churchill that said that.because i find it hard to believe any horse in the world could take winstons weight not even half a dozen shires

[JackiePreece]

Why are you posting your BIG conspiracy theory post as proof? Big arrogant David! And you can't explain with ANY credibility why the police would add MM into the mix.

Can you explain with ANY credibility why Paul Harrison had Sheila as Jeremy's accomplice? 

[sami]

Can you explain with ANY credibility why Paul Harrison had Sheila as Jeremy's accomplice?

was paul at the scene or is he just like us the only difference being he has wrote a book and made some money out of it

[lookout]

Neither Sheila nor Jeremy were keen on shooting parties because of the end product-------dead animals and birds. Why on earth they went,God knows. You've got to have nerves of steel to watch animals die in this way. I don't call it a sport at all,but that's another point of view.
No wonder neither sibling weren't interested in that way of life. Target practice with a row of tin cans was probably what Jeremy enjoyed more,earning him his " crack-shot " title.

[Jane]

Neither Sheila nor Jeremy were keen on shooting parties because of the end product-------dead animals and birds. Why on earth they went,God knows. You've got to have nerves of steel to watch animals die in this way. I don't call it a sport at all,but that's another point of view.
No wonder neither sibling weren't interested in that way of life. Target practice with a row of tin cans was probably what Jeremy enjoyed more,earning him his " crack-shot " title.

I think you're missing the point, lookout.

[lookout]

I think you're missing the point, lookout.

Not really, it's only because you don't agree.

[sami]

I think you're missing the point, lookout.

theres a photo of a young jb about 8 or 10 with a rifle under his arm .his interest in guns is deep after all vermin control would be something that jb would have injoyed thats why he won a medal for shooting in his school days.he was bought up around firearms he also went with nb to pick that rifle from the shop.so he was very interested in guns .oh and the auto shotgun he wanted to buy for pegion shooting so he claims.i think it was for the murders he wanted that