the most likely scenario as i see it

[Steve_uk]

In hindsight Jeremy's defence could have done things very differently. One observation I find interesting is that Jeremy takes the advice of his defence council to instruct his QC to agree that the silencer was attached during the killings at some point. Had Jeremy committed the crime with the silencer and put it away I cannot imagine why on earth he would make that decision.

I'm not sure what point you're making David. Is it that Jeremy should admit he perpetrated the crimes minus the silencer in order to make some criminal conviction stick to the relatives?

[mike tesko]

This came about as a result of Jeremys' counsel feeling confident that he could persuade the jury that the blood found in the silencer came from an intimate mixture of his parents bloods. Since, as the trial judge. DRAKE told the jury in his summing up address, it was for the jury to decide whether or not the blood in question was a mixture of two or more type of blood, possibly originating from both parents. It was open to the jury to conclude that the silencer was fitted to the gun at the time the other victims were shot and killed, but that Sheila removed it before turning the unsilenced gun upon herself...

[Reader]

Not once at court does Jeremy or his legal team use this evidence at trial.

The sighting of something in the window was mentioned at trial when Ps Bews was questioned by the defence. For some reason, the defence asked whether it was just a trick of the light, and Ps Bews agreed.

[John]

Former Essex Police Sergeant Chris Bews explains to interviewer Mark Williams-Thomas how Jeremy Bamber told him as they walked around the perimeter of the farmhouse that he had seen movement at an upstairs window.

Bews stated that he thought it was merely a reflection from a window pane on one of the upper floors.  He was quite satisfied that there was no movement.

 

Clearly Bamber was setting the scene as follow up to his "Sheila had the gun" story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo

[sami]

Former Essex Police Sergeant Chris Bews explains to interviewer Mark Williams-Thomas how Jeremy Bamber told him as they walked around the perimeter of the farmhouse that he had seen movement at an upstairs window.

Bews stated that he thought it was merely a reflection from a window pane on one of the upper floors.  He was quite satisfied that there was no movement.

 

Clearly Bamber was setting the scene as follow up to his "Sheila had the gun" story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo

good work john.ive been looking for this clip to show jackie p.

[Caroline]

Former Essex Police Sergeant Chris Bews explains to interviewer Mark Williams-Thomas how Jeremy Bamber told him as they walked around the perimeter of the farmhouse that he had seen movement at an upstairs window.

Bews stated that he thought it was merely a reflection from a window pane on one of the upper floors.  He was quite satisfied that there was no movement.

 

Clearly Bamber was setting the scene as follow up to his "Sheila had the gun" story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo

This is true but (and I can't believe I am agreeing with Jackie) he has also said that it was Myall who noticed the movement. Such inconsistencies allow the conspiracy theorists to flourish.

[sami]

This is true but (and I can't believe I am agreeing with Jackie) he has also said that it was Myall who noticed the movement. Such inconsistencies allow the conspiracy theorists to flourish.

caroline i feel he was one of the officers that were completly fooled by jb.and now tries to make it look like he wasnt and suspected jb all along.only ds jones and di miller were not fooled by jb.imo

[lookout]

That guy is showing what he believed in ( a figure ) then surreptitiously disbelieved what he KNOWS what he saw.
With him---------it's a" trick of the mind".He knows full well what he saw !!

[maggie]

That guy is showing what he believed in ( a figure ) then surreptitiously disbelieved what he KNOWS what he saw.
With him---------it's a" trick of the mind".He knows full well what he saw !!

I do agree his behaviour is very unconvincing and his body language ... all that face stroking suggests he's telling porkies.  Could never see him as a reliable witness.

[sami]

iam sure ive heard him say in a documentary that when he approached the house it was in darkness,but we know thats not true because several lights were on upstairs.so its a case of a country cop who was fooled ,now portraying he wasnt

[lookout]

I do agree his behaviour is very unconvincing and his body language ... all that face stroking suggests he's telling porkies.  Could never see him as a reliable witness.

I was going to add that he's an out and out liar. You can see it a mile off and that alone makes uncomfortable viewing when you know that someone's lying through their teeth.

[sami]

i think his lies are only to make himself look smart.but i still feel when he says he saw no one at the.. window hes telling the truth.imo

[Neil]

I do agree his behaviour is very unconvincing and his body language ... all that face stroking suggests he's telling porkies.  Could never see him as a reliable witness.

I agree 100%.  I've always considered him to be most unimpressive.

[Caroline]

caroline i feel he was one of the officers that were completly fooled by jb.and now tries to make it look like he wasnt and suspected jb all along.only ds jones and di miller were not fooled by jb.imo

He is VERY nervous and can't look anyone in the eye when he talks about certain things (like the movement at the window). Saying one thing then another makes him look like an idiot - but also calls into question the validity of what he says/said.

[lookout]

Movement of the eyes denotes lying.