PC Collins Pocketbook entry for events at the scene on 7th August, 1985, blank..

[mike tesko]

Now, there's a turn up for the book, so to speak - it begs the question, why would the officer who reports the sighting of a dead female body in the kitchen, which he later retracts by claiming he mistook Ralph Neville Bambers body, for that of a dead female, a mistake supposedly realised once he entered the kitchen?

[Jane]

Now, there's a turn up for the book, so to speak - it begs the question, why would the officer who reports the sighting of a dead female body in the kitchen, which he later retracts by claiming he mistook Ralph Neville Bambers body, for that of a dead female, a mistake supposedly realised once he entered the kitchen?

A) Fairly reasonable if he thought, whilst OUTside looking in, that the body was female, and realized his mistake when he was INside.

B) He was the first one to realize there was an opportunity to frame Jeremy???

C) He should have gone to Specsavers.

[lookout]

Should he not have known that Neville was a man ? For obvious reasons.?

[Jane]

Should he not have known that Neville was a man ? For obvious reasons.?

I imagine that the parts which would have confirmed maleness, weren't visible.

[lookout]

I imagine that the parts which would have confirmed maleness, weren't visible.

Well if everything else about Neville was seen through the window,that part would have been visible because the pyjama bottoms were to his knees.

[Jane]

Well if everything else about Neville was seen through the window,that part would have been visible because the pyjama bottoms were to his knees.

Was the poor man not pitched forward, Lookout? Unless, of course, you choose to go with Adam's lewd comment.

[lookout]

Was the poor man not pitched forward, Lookout? Unless, of course, you choose to go with Adam's lewd comment.

I don't read Adam's posts.

[Jane]

I don't read Adam's posts.

OK. Was the poor man not pitched forward?

[lookout]

OK. Was the poor man not pitched forward?

We don't know prior to his position being disturbed.

[mike tesko]

A) Fairly reasonable if he thought, whilst OUTside looking in, that the body was female, and realized his mistake when he was INside.

B) He was the first one to realize there was an opportunity to frame Jeremy???

C) He should have gone to Specsavers.

Hang on a minute...

Every other cop at the scene, later makes a pocketbook entry, except PC Collins who leaves two pages completely blank without any entries recorded between his dated entries of the 6th and the 8th August 1985, now this is just not acceptible...

[Jane]

Hang on a minute...

Every other cop at the scene, later makes a pocketbook entry, except PC Collins who leaves two pages completely blank without any entries recorded between his dated entries of the 6th and the 8th August 1985, now this is just not acceptible...

Well, he COULD have colluded with others, as in "Oi Mate, what did you put for that?" OR he could have bluffed it OR he could have lied. He can't be accused of doing any of those things.

[mike tesko]

Well, he COULD have colluded with others, as in "Oi Mate, what did you put for that?" OR he could have bluffed it OR he could have lied. He can't be accused of doing any of those things.

Police rules and regulation stipulate that every officer must make pocketbook entries directly into his pocketbook , detailing the duties he performed, any breaks, and the time he went off duty. Now, just to hit the nail on the head, so to speak, it suggests very strongly that PC Collins was never present at the farmhouse, to carry out the duties and observations he claims to have made, otherwise he would have made a relevant pocketbook entry. Why does PC Collins leave two pages in his pocketbook, sandwiched between his entries, dated the 6th and the 8th August, 1985, completely blank?

He did so, I would suggest, because he was never present at the scene. He did not report seeing a female body through the kitchen window before the raid team entered the farmhouse, and he did not rectify that mistake once he was supposed to have entered the main kitchen, by supposedly realising that the body he thought was a dead female, was in fact the body of Ralph Bamber. Fact is, no entry in his pocketbook, exposes the lies he has been introduced into the operation to tell, as nothing but lies, with no resemblance at all to the truth. PC Collins own pocketbook entries confirm that he was 'not on duty' at the scene at the time the siege was being managed, or entry was made to get inside...

[mike tesko]

Dodgy cops, and dodgy witnesses, who consistently keep making these dodgy witness statements, for other people, who then seek to claim these dodgy people made their own witness statements, is a standing joke, they lie, they lie and they keep on lying...

[mike tesko]

Dodgy cops, and dodgy witnesses, who consistently keep making these dodgy witness statements, for other people, who then seek to claim these dodgy people made their own witness statements, is a standing joke, they lie, they lie and they keep on lying...

No wonder there are 'so many miscarriages of injustice'...

[Jane]

Police rules and regulation stipulate that every officer must make pocketbook entries directly into his pocketbook , detailing the duties he performed, any breaks, and the time he went off duty. Now, just to hit the nail on the head, so to speak, it suggests very strongly that PC Collins was never present at the farmhouse, to carry out the duties and observations he claims to have made, otherwise he would have made a relevant pocketbook entry. Why does PC Collins leave two pages in his pocketbook, sandwiched between his entries, dated the 6th and the 8th August, 1985, completely blank?

He did so, I would suggest, because he was never present at the scene. He did not report seeing a female body through the kitchen window before the raid team entered the farmhouse, and he did not rectify that mistake once he was supposed to have entered the main kitchen, by supposedly realising that the body he thought was a dead female, was in fact the body of Ralph Bamber. Fact is, no entry in his pocketbook, exposes the lies he has been introduced into the operation to tell, as nothing but lies, with no resemblance at all to the truth. PC Collins own pocketbook entries confirm that he was 'not on duty' at the scene at the time the siege was being managed, or entry was made to get inside...

With the amount of boots in the area, I can't imagine they do much other than give him a private reprimand if what you say is true......................but it won't get Jeremy out.