Okay fair enough, but they are not my words, they are taken straight from the 2002 judgement. I don't have an opinion on the matter.
What I was really interested in and what I replied to was your initial claim relating to moving bodies and the 2002 judgement, basically because it doesn't sound truthful, so I was asking you to prove me wrong.
But that's also fine, so don't worry about it.
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no problem, I will post copies of what I can as and when I come across them amongst my files...