Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test

[Jane]

I found this, it apparently explains why Jeremy is a psychopath and is able to manipulate polygraph testers in to saying all sorts of nonesense.

Caroline, please can you put it in the R Kives. 

  ^-

[David1819]

I don't respond to orders - if you want to ask nicely, I'll THINK ABOUT IT!

I was just suggesting it to the Admins. Not Caroline I demand you this instance to put it the library NOW!

 

[guest2181]

Caroline I demand you this instance to put it the library NOW!

Surely you're better off just asking nicely? 

[David1819]

I found this, it apparently explains why Jeremy is a psychopath and is able to manipulate polygraph testers in to saying all sorts of nonesense.

Caroline, please can you put it in the R Kives. 

Hartley did you not read the bottom of the hyroglifics? Its sais the answer to weather Shelia or Jeremy committed the crime is prophesied on a wall in a hidden chamber inside Tutankhamun's Tomb! 


On a serious note

I did post an English translation of it a while back after putting it through Google translate . However its important to use the original document don't you think?

[Caroline]

I found this, it apparently explains why Jeremy is a psychopath and is able to manipulate polygraph testers in to saying all sorts of nonesense.

Caroline, please can you put it in the R Kives. 

  - have to say, that cracked me up! 

[Caroline]

Hartley did you not read the bottom of the hyroglifics? Its sais the answer to weather Shelia or Jeremy committed the crime is prophesied on a wall in a hidden chamber inside Tutankhamun's Tomb! 


On a serious note

I did post an English translation of it a while back after putting it through Google translate . However its important to use the original document don't you think?

Not if you can't understand it! 

[guest2181]

Hartley did you not read the bottom of the hyroglifics? Its sais the answer to weather Shelia or Jeremy committed the crime is prophesied on a wall in a hidden chamber inside Tutankhamun's Tomb! 

To be fair, I haven't looked at the forecast for tomorrow, is it raining? 

[David1819]

Anyone here understand Italian?

Here is the English version. According to Google Translate

Dr. MARCO M FLON 1 MD MEDICAL CI IIR URC I ODON
The OIATRA IMPLAND ology intraosseous
HRANFMARK MEDICINE CENTRE
the 01.1SPECIALISTICA 00197 Roma -
Viale Parioli, 40 'Fel. 06 / 80.76.177 - Fax 80 85 411 Cell. 0336/866574


                                             JEREMY BAMBER / PHOTO Shiela CAFFEL


It 'well known that bleeding, due to a wound provoked, depends substantially:
• The type of lesioned vessels (arteries-veins)
• By extension of the wound
• From 'heart activity upstream
• From the metabolic conditions of the' individual concerned at the time of the traumatic event

In this case, analyzing the photographs in our possession, we see three important elements:

1. modest amount of blood on the right lateral region of the neck, a situation which conflicts with the hypothesis of a blood spill started hours before. In this case, in fact, it would have to produce a 'soiling blood much more accentuated; in fact, it remembers that the offending was under police custody from about 03:00 am and that the discovery of the corpse photographed occurred at approximately 7:34 am, in any case, in fact, the photo was taken at hours 8:30 to 09:00 am.

2. leaking blood, sustained, that fact also by 'police officer around 07:34 am, describes the body that owns the photo examined by us.

3. number 4 holes apparently by the bullet, in the area of ??the neck (entry holes, holes for entry and exit, outlet holes?)

Given the modest amount of blood that can be seen from the pictures, you might assume that the arrest of cardiac likely occurred in a very short time after the traumatic event (bullet injury on the neck?)
Whereas there is an apparent drainage of fluid from the blood bullet holes (it also stated by police officer) and therefore do not have apparently completed the phenomena of coagulation that do occur in the post-mortem, it can be assumed, lacking other elements of judgment, such as:

• rigor mortis
• body temperature
• External hypostasis

that the time of death can be placed over a period of no more than 2 hours before the discovery of the body itself.

Even in the opinion of the coroner, Dr. Andrea Cavalli MD, I consulted about the case sottopostomi, evidence detectable from an examination of the photograph and testimony of the police officer, should make further investigation, that the subject of diagnosis of time of death, can not be independent from 'acquisition parameters chrono-thanatological then encountered (body temperature - hypostasis - rigor mortis), to be assessed in the light of the overall framework detrimental pathological.

Dott. Marco Meloni DOCTOR SURGEON DENTIST Via Riccardo Forster, 121 - ROME CF MLN MRC 49P02 H5OIN P: IVA00 / 1iigiegal

[Caroline]

Here is the English version. According to Google Translate

Cheers but to me they seem to be to be basing a lot of their 'opinions' on the fact that one officer said that blood was leaking from Sheila's mouth. A comment that was taken literally to mean 'free flowing' - pictures show that the blood leaking from Sheila's mouth was dried and cracking by the time she was photographed and it's clear that the office used the work 'leaking' not in it's literal sense - meaning it had leaked but was no longer flowing.

[guest154]

I think it is another case of you get what you pay for.  These experts are basing it off very little and from photographs, doesn't seem very precise to me and it would be doubtful that this would ever take important over the statements at the time time from people who were there.

But I think your point (David) is that trying to use this document as propaganda would be better than trying to use the lie detector as propaganda, I do somewhat agree but I think that a lot of people will hear about the lie detector and be swayed more by this than the findings of the experts.

[David1819]

I think it is another case of you get what you pay for.  These experts are basing it off very little and from photographs, doesn't seem very precise to me and it would be doubtful that this would ever take important over the statements at the time time from people who were there.

But I think your point (David) is that trying to use this document as propaganda would be better than trying to use the lie detector as propaganda, I do somewhat agree but I think that a lot of people will hear about the lie detector and be swayed more by this than the findings of the experts.

Yes that is why I brought it up.

[guest154]

Yes that is why I brought it up.

Maybe Trudi doesn't speak Italian 

[David1819]

Cheers but to me they seem to be to be basing a lot of their 'opinions' on the fact that one officer said that blood was leaking from Sheila's mouth. A comment that was taken literally to mean 'free flowing' - pictures show that the blood leaking from Sheila's mouth was dried and cracking by the time she was photographed and it's clear that the office used the work 'leaking' not in it's literal sense - meaning it had leaked but was no longer flowing.

You will need to ask someone trained in the medical field. It would be interesting to hear what Vanezis opinion would be on this. However I don't think he will suddenly go "Oh My God Jeremy is Innocent" 

[guest2181]

You will need to ask someone trained in the medical field. It would be interesting to hear what Vanezis opinion would be on this. However I don't think he will suddenly go "Oh My God Jeremy is Innocent" 

Why? We can all clearly see that blood is not 'free flowing', it is dry and cracked.

I'm happy to step back and bow to expert opinion on certain issues, but this isn't one of them.

In the same way, I don't need an expert to tell me if it is raining, I have the ability and knowledge (expertise perhaps) to look out of the window or stand in the garden and conclude wHether it is actually raining or not.

[Caroline]

Why? We can all clearly see that blood is not 'free flowing', it is dry and cracked.

I'm happy to step back and bow to expert opinion on certain issues, but this isn't one of them.

In the same way, I don't need an expert to tell me if it is raining, I have the ability and knowledge (expertise perhaps) to look out of the window or stand in the garden and conclude wHether it is actually raining or not.

It's another thing that has been taken literally and you can understand why the officer would have explained what he saw in those terms - she did have blood coming out of her mouth but it was not free flowing. The same way that Sheila and June were found either side of the bed - just not ON the bed. You can see how things might get taken literally but you would think once the officer explained what he ACTUALLY meant - people would understand what was really intended and in this instance, we have the pictures to back up the comment.