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Offline David1819

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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2016, 01:19:AM »
Really?


Yeah I have attached the PDF below

I warn you mat this will BLOW YOUR MIND!  ::)
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« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2016, 01:25:AM »
Don't understand this, the test is supposed to have lasted 100 mins and yet he was only asked 3 relevant questions?  ???
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« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2016, 01:29:AM »
 ;D The bit at the bottom..... A sworn affidavit will be sent on return from holiday.

Bamber was only asked 3 questions? Two of them were the same question in different ways. He must have been asked more as the expert will ask him questions such as his name and DOB to get a base reading to judge his reactions to the main questions.

It's the polygraph chart readings I want to see - which will look like the reading of a heart monitor for other experts to judge, not because I think it matters if someone else says that the results show that he wasn't telling the truth but just because with something as subjective as reading lines on a piece of paper. I will ask Mullins - no harm in asking and if you do not ask you do not get. I will also ask him if he believes that the fact the crimes happened 30 years before the test can have any bearing on the results and if he believe people with mental illness that block out their crimes could pass the test even though they are being deceptive.

Don't understand this, the test is supposed to have lasted 100 mins and yet he was only asked 3 relevant questions?  ???

He can't have been can he? He needed to be asked base questions, or what are they judging his reactions again.

Can you imagine if Trudis new Vog leads to this whole "lie dectector" rubbish falling apart?  ;D

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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2016, 01:31:AM »
Don't understand this, the test is supposed to have lasted 100 mins and yet he was only asked 3 relevant questions?  ???

Before they ask the relevant questions they ask loads of random stuff so the machine can be adapted to the particular person. blood pressure heart rate etc etc

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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2016, 01:34:AM »
;D The bit at the bottom..... A sworn affidavit will be sent on return from holiday.


Dodgy DiStefano got him a fancy holiday to Italy in return for an all clear  ;D

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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test
« Reply #65 on: March 10, 2016, 01:36:AM »
Dodgy DiStefano got him a fancy holiday to Italy in return for an all clear  ;D

I wouldn't drop dead of shock.  ;D


THREE questions is strange. There is a lot he should have been asked, why wouldn't he be asked about Julie's claims? Did he ever tell her the things that she claimed he did. This seems another chance to take a shot at JM and again he didn't -why?  :-\ Why has he never said anything about her?  :-\ That bugs me and has done for a long time.

He should have been asked about JM, phonecall from his Father.

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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test
« Reply #66 on: March 10, 2016, 01:37:AM »
;D The bit at the bottom..... A sworn affidavit will be sent on return from holiday.

Bamber was only asked 3 questions? Two of them were the same question in different ways. He must have been asked more as the expert will ask him questions such as his name and DOB to get a base reading to judge his reactions to the main questions.

It's the polygraph chart readings I want to see - which will look like the reading of a heart monitor for other experts to judge, not because I think it matters if someone else says that the results show that he wasn't telling the truth but just because with something as subjective as reading lines on a piece of paper. I will ask Mullins - no harm in asking and if you do not ask you do not get. I will also ask him if he believes that the fact the crimes happened 30 years before the test can have any bearing on the results and if he believe people with mental illness that block out their crimes could pass the test even though they are being deceptive.

He can't have been can he? He needed to be asked base questions, or what are they judging his reactions again.

Can you imagine if Trudis new Vog leads to this whole "lie dectector" rubbish falling apart?  ;D

Yes, he would have had to ask base questions but if it lasted for 100 minutes - what else did he ask him and how far into the test were the relevant questions asked?

This is where is states that the test lasted 100 mins http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/p/bamber-passes-lie-detector.html

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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test
« Reply #67 on: March 10, 2016, 01:39:AM »
After 100 mins, surely you would be pretty relaxed and used to being questioned?
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« Reply #68 on: March 10, 2016, 01:42:AM »
Yes, he would have had to ask base questions but if it lasted for 100 minutes - what else did he ask him and how far into the test were the relevant questions asked?

This is where is states that the test lasted 100 mins http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/p/bamber-passes-lie-detector.html

Mr Mullins said: ‘You only have to fail one question and you fail the whole test.

I don't understand that comment because say that...

Question 1 : Did you shoot five members of your family with an Anshutz rifle? "No." and the results show that Bamber was using no deception.

But

If he failed question 2. How would that mean he has failed the whole test? If he was shown as using no deception on question one.

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« Reply #69 on: March 10, 2016, 01:46:AM »
Mr Mullins said: ‘You only have to fail one question and you fail the whole test.

I don't understand that comment because say that...

Question 1 : Did you shoot five members of your family with an Anshutz rifle? "No." and the results show that Bamber was using no deception.

But

If he failed question 2. How would that mean he has failed the whole test? If he was shown as using no deception on question one.

Or passed 1 and 3 and failed on 2  ;D ;D ;D

I can't get my head around only 3 relevant questions if the test lasted 100 minutes?  ???
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« Reply #70 on: March 10, 2016, 01:54:AM »
Also, Jeremy didn't have the stress value of looking at being convicted - he already was. Surely the fear involved in doing the test is the fear of being caught, it would surely be different for someone who had already gone through the court process - there was nothing to lose and so no stress. I would be interested to know what TM has to say on this aspect.
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« Reply #71 on: March 10, 2016, 01:59:AM »
Also, Jeremy didn't have the stress value of looking at being convicted - he already was. Surely the fear involved in doing the test is the fear of being caught, it would surely be different for someone who had already gone through the court process - there was nothing to lose and so no stress. I would be interested to know what TM has to say on this aspect.

You will have to ask an expert in the field.  :-\

He still has the stress value of failing which would be a PR disaster for him. And if that was the result you certainly would not be putting it under any scrutiny like you are now with a pass.

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« Reply #72 on: March 10, 2016, 02:37:AM »
You will have to ask an expert in the field.  :-\

He still has the stress value of failing which would be a PR disaster for him. And if that was the result you certainly would not be putting it under any scrutiny like you are now with a pass.

Wouldn't I? I don't happen to believe that polygraphs have ANY validity - pass or fail.
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« Reply #73 on: March 10, 2016, 02:40:AM »
Wouldn't I? I don't happen to believe that polygraphs have ANY validity - pass or fail.

Then why you take so much interest Jeremy's?

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« Reply #74 on: March 10, 2016, 02:46:AM »
Then why you take so much interest Jeremy's?

Because certain people believe that he must be innocent because he passed it.  Not sure why I need to explain myself to you :o?
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