When was Neville shot ?

[guest2181]

So Sheila's behaviour,particularly as a mother,was " normal "?

I think you are missing my point, whether Sheilas behaviour was normal or not, is irrelevant in terms of suggesting it influenced or was an indicator that she committed murder.

Whereas in the Jeremy scenario, his actions were due to greed and general evilness, so his personality and prior behaviour becomes relevant (in an idle gossip kind of way).

[Jane]

Good to have you back, Harts. Hope it's for longer than a flying visit.

[lookout]

Normal is relative to each of us. According to how you read SOME of us, you're the only one who fits the criteria

I'm talking about Sheila's" normality" in thinking what her children could do to her. You have a knack of side-tracking that which you think is irrelevant.

[guest2181]

Good to have you back, Harts. Hope it's for longer than a flying visit.

Unfortunately not, busy boy with family and work at the mo. 

[Jane]

Unfortunately not, busy boy with family and work at the mo. 

Then we must make the most of you whist we have you

[guest2181]

Then we must make the most of you whist we have you

Okay, now I'm scared!   

[lookout]

I think you are missing my point, whether Sheilas behaviour was normal or not, is irrelevant in terms of suggesting it influenced or was an indicator that she committed murder.

Whereas in the Jeremy scenario, his actions were due to greed and general evilness, so his personality and prior behaviour becomes relevant (in an idle gossip kind of way).

But it has indeed got relevance if we knew the full facts of Sheila's illness.

[guest2181]

But it has indeed got relevance if we knew the full facts of Sheila's illness.

I don't follow?

We're not referring to her illness, that's already accepted as a potential trigger for her actions in the 'Sheila did it' scenario.

I'm not sure also what you mean by "full facts", her illness was almost certainly downplayed by the prosecution and emphasised be the defence. They had different goals.

[Caroline]

But it has indeed got relevance if we knew the full facts of Sheila's illness.

Knowing 'the full facts' (to quote you), would simply tell us Sheila was ill - we already know that. It's simply circumstantial info. I don't know why the CT are trying to obtain her records? But in doing so, they should perhaps also request Jeremy's because he wasn't keep to have his scrutinised!

[guest2181]

Knowing 'the full facts' (to quote you), would simply tell us Sheila was ill - we already know that. It's simply circumstantial info. I don't know why the CT are trying to obtain her records? But in doing so, they should perhaps also request Jeremy's because he wasn't keep to have his scrutinised!

Probably because it sounds good, they can make out to gullible people that Sheila was actually much worse than suggested.

However, it doesn't really matter, Jeremy was not convicted based on the level of Sheilas illness.

[Jane]

Knowing 'the full facts' (to quote you), would simply tell us Sheila was ill - we already know that. It's simply circumstantial info. I don't know why the CT are trying to obtain her records? But in doing so, they should perhaps also request Jeremy's because he wasn't keep to have his scrutinised!

It does give pause for thought about what there might be in HIS records that he's reluctant to have revealed. Hmm?

[lookout]

It does give pause for thought about what there might be in HIS records that he's reluctant to have revealed. Hmm?

Yes,let's also see Jeremy's medical records too as I'm as curious as the next in wanting to know why it's been kept " secret ". I'm sure I personally couldn't care less who sees mine because if it helps further the education on the heart,then I'm all for it. There's nothing in my notes that I'd want to keep secret or private for that matter. I don't know what all the fuss is about quite honestly.

[guest154]

I don't follow?

We're not referring to her illness, that's already accepted as a potential trigger for her actions in the 'Sheila did it' scenario.

I'm not sure also what you mean by "full facts", her illness was almost certainly downplayed by the prosecution and emphasised be the defence. They had different goals.

Their are claims that more records have been found showing Sheila was more mentally unwell that has already been suggested.

Doesn't prove anything and doesn't get rid of the evidence in the case but gives sheep something to bleet about.

[lookout]

 Contrary to what you say, Sheila's medical records will prove a lot !

[Jane]

Contrary to what you say, Sheila's medical records will prove a lot !

You may receive a VERY nasty shock if Jeremy's are revealed. I'd say if he's going for an appeal, the court would be entitled to see them.