Why Bamber would dial 999.

[Jane]

I'm sure that Neville in his wildest dreams never thought that Sheila would have used the " gun ". The call didn't include that she'd used it at that point.

Do we know how Sheila had been on other occasions when Neville used to ring Jeremy for his assistance with her ?

Er, WHAT occasions would those have been?

[Caroline]

Er, WHAT occasions would those have been?

The ones Lookout has imagined.

[lookout]

Er, WHAT occasions would those have been?

  I don't know the actual occasion/s or specific dates/times,but Jeremy had been requested by his father,in the past,to assist him in calming Sheila down during one of her " episodes ". It's more than likely in Scott Lomax's book because it's quite some time ago that I read about it.

[Jane]

  I don't know the actual occasion/s or specific dates/times,but Jeremy had been requested by his father,in the past,to assist him in calming Sheila down during one of her " episodes ". It's more than likely in Scott Lomax's book because it's quite some time ago that I read about it.

Would it be presumptive to ask how Scott Lomax knows this "fact"? I believe we've previously cleared up that authors who weren't there at the time have NO way of knowing what went on. This would seem to be yet another "fact" which must be taken with a large pinch of salt.

[lookout]

Would it be presumptive to ask how Scott Lomax knows this "fact"? I believe we've previously cleared up that authors who weren't there at the time have NO way of knowing what went on. This would seem to be yet another "fact" which must be taken with a large pinch of salt.

Because I rather feel that this author knows Jeremy better than the others do or did.  His book contains far more facts,so much so that he's on his second one-----------is anyone else ?

[Jane]

Because I rather feel that this author knows Jeremy better than the others do or did.  His book contains far more facts,so much so that he's on his second one-----------is anyone else ?

Again, this is only your opinion, isn't it? I seem to recall that you saying that you don't read any of the books written about the case.

[lookout]

Again, this is only your opinion, isn't it? I seem to recall that you saying that you don't read any of the books written about the case.

Snippets,not the whole book.I've NEVER read one of them right through,because one sounds,and is,much the same as another because after all it's only the author's personal view,because none of them were there as it happened and each version serves those who lean towards either guilty or innocent,with nothing new in 30 years. So what more do any of them know,that we don't ? Not a lot !

[Jane]

Snippets,not the whole book.I've NEVER read one of them right through,because one sounds,and is,much the same as another because after all it's only the author's personal view,because none of them were there as it happened and each version serves those who lean towards either guilty or innocent,with nothing new in 30 years. So what more do any of them know,that we don't ? Not a lot !

If we pooled what we know -naturally sorting the fact from fiction- we could write a book, probably at least on a par with, and maybe better than, some which have been written.

[Caroline]

  I don't know the actual occasion/s or specific dates/times,but Jeremy had been requested by his father,in the past,to assist him in calming Sheila down during one of her " episodes ". It's more than likely in Scott Lomax's book because it's quite some time ago that I read about it.

Didn't think so 

[Caroline]

Snippets,not the whole book.I've NEVER read one of them right through,because one sounds,and is,much the same as another because after all it's only the author's personal view,because none of them were there as it happened and each version serves those who lean towards either guilty or innocent,with nothing new in 30 years. So what more do any of them know,that we don't ? Not a lot !

Then perhaps you should start reading the whole book and you wouldn't get half the story.

[Jane]

Didn't think so 

PLEEESE don't say this means we've got to read it word for word to find out

[Caroline]

PLEEESE don't say this means we've got to read it word for word to find out

Nah, I'm not going to bother. It's he person that make the claim who should be looking to prove their post has merit.

[Jane]

Nah, I'm not going to bother. It's he person that make the claim who should be looking to prove their post has merit.

Think Lookout is going to have to change her mind about reading books about Jeremy..................although I guess she could get it straight from the horse's mouth. I expect he could remember how many times Nevill rang him for assistance with Sheila.

[Steve_uk]

Snippets,not the whole book.I've NEVER read one of them right through,because one sounds,and is,much the same as another because after all it's only the author's personal view,because none of them were there as it happened and each version serves those who lean towards either guilty or innocent,with nothing new in 30 years. So what more do any of them know,that we don't ? Not a lot !

It's probably harder to pore through all the four million documents, try to make sense of them and make up your own mind than it is to settle down to Clare Powell's book(to name but one) and have much of the hard work done for you.

[lookout]

It's probably harder to pore through all the four million documents, try to make sense of them and make up your own mind than it is to settle down to Clare Powell's book(to name but one) and have much of the hard work done for you.

At this stage,I'd rather study the dangers of anti-psychotic medications and the urge to kill through the use of them. There are heaps of medications on the market which " treat " depressives,psychotics,bi-polar and post-natal illnesses which have the opposite effect to what they were prescribed for. Multiple shootings and mass murders in America were mostly carried out by those who were taking some form of anti-psychotic or anti-depressive medication.
The guy/pilot who flew his plane into a mountain in the French Alps was taking anti-psychotic medication,making his already depressive condition into a dangerous urge to kill rather than treating his depression. He would have been in denial of his condition before murdering all those innocent people.

Those who withdraw from such medications should be monitored and supported for at least 12 months  because their illness can return far worse than before they were prescribed their medication.