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Offline Adam

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Why Bamber would dial 999.
« on: February 12, 2016, 12:54:PM »
He knew the number.

He had the phone in his hand.

He didn't know the numbers of any individual police station.

He knew a 999 call is answered straight away.

He knew a 999 call is manned 24/7 and always answered.

He knew a 999 call would deal with his query correctly.

He didn't know which individual police stations would be open.

He did not know which individual police stations would answer straight away.

He decided the situation was serious enough to contact the police. So dialling 999 is the obvious thing to do.

Bamber himself said ringing an individual police station 'would make no difference' to how quickly the police arrived. So there is only a big disadvantage,  in having to waste time looking up numbers in the Yellow pages.

A 999 call would direct the call to the correct station straight away.

He had two options to dial 999, after there was no answer from Witham police station.

Dialling 999 would be an instant reaction after getting Neville's call.

He wanted things resolved quickly as he tried to call back Neville after the phone went dead. Being unsuccessful doing this, and with the phone in his hand, he will then do the next best thing. Which was to dial 999.

He did not know if an individual police station would have the correct staff available to assist him.

He was half asleep, so would not be analysing things too much. The action which required the least effort was ringing the 999.

He wouldn't know if the Yellow pages would have correct numbers.

Everyone is taught from a young age to dial 999. In an emergency.

No one is taught from a young age to look for police stations numbers in an emergency.

Bamber said he spoke to Julie after the police. So cannot claim Julie advised him to phone a police station directly.

Neville had rang him for assistance now. If Bamber was not going to go there straight away, he would want to meet the police quickly.

A combination of the above.






« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 12:59:PM by Adam »
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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 01:07:PM »
If it had been an emergency then logically Neville would have dialled 999 as that would have been much easier than Jeremy's number. Therefore one could reason that at the time of the call it wasn't an emergency but something that Neville thought he could handle with Jeremy's help... Jeremy didn't agree.

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 01:20:PM »
If it had been an emergency then logically Neville would have dialled 999 as that would have been much easier than Jeremy's number. Therefore one could reason that at the time of the call it wasn't an emergency but something that Neville thought he could handle with Jeremy's help... Jeremy didn't agree.

It just all falls flat really and you have to 'make up' and excuse for why he didn't call 999 - I did the same but I realised that that's what I was doing and if I wasn't convinced, I wouldn't be convincing anyone else. Logically Nevill WOULD have dialled 999, not Jeremy at 03:10. However, if for some unfathomable reason he did call Jeremy - it begs the questions of why Jeremy didn't call 999? Didn't go over as requested? And waited 26 minutes before calling local police?
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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 01:26:PM »
A more intelligent way of putting it might have been to ask why Jeremy DIDN'T call 999.

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 02:10:PM »
Because Neville was already ringing 999 when Jeremy couldn't get through to his father because it was engaged.

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 02:18:PM »
Because Neville was already ringing 999 when Jeremy couldn't get through to his father because it was engaged.


Beautifully executed. A plan which makes Jeremy innocent. However, as it didn't happen so therefore can't be proved, you can accuse the police of conspiracy to frame him.......................trouble is you can't come up with an intelligent reason why.

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 02:25:PM »
Because Neville was already ringing 999 when Jeremy couldn't get through to his father because it was engaged.

Really? But Jerey called his father STRAIGHT back - so that would be JUST AFTER (and before) 03:15. The log that is supposed to have been Nevill's call states a time of 03:26 and it wasn't a 999 call, it was called through on the 'exchange line' from CD 1990 - which is West's call sign. People can pretend that Nevill called the police but the evidence PROVES otherwise and dead men can't use the phone.
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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 02:31:PM »
Really? But Jerey called his father STRAIGHT back - so that would be JUST AFTER (and before) 03:15. The log that is supposed to have been Nevill's call states a time of 03:26 and it wasn't a 999 call, it was called through on the 'exchange line' from CD 1990 - which is West's call sign. People can pretend that Nevill called the police but the evidence PROVES otherwise and dead men can't use the phone.


Ah, but Lookout insists she's never wrong, Caroline.

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2016, 02:35:PM »

Ah, but Lookout insists she's never wrong, Caroline.

Ah but I insist that 9 times out of 10, she is wrong - but doesn't have the bottle to admit it!  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2016, 02:49:PM »
Ah but I insist that she 9 times out of 10, she is wrong - but doesn't have the bottle to admit it!  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2016, 03:22:PM »
Ah but I insist that 9 times out of 10, she is wrong - but doesn't have the bottle to admit it!  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

 



Better that than being wrong all the time like you are  :o At least my chances are more favourable. ;)

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2016, 03:52:PM »
It just all falls flat really and you have to 'make up' and excuse for why he didn't call 999 - I did the same but I realised that that's what I was doing and if I wasn't convinced, I wouldn't be convincing anyone else. Logically Nevill WOULD have dialled 999, not Jeremy at 03:10. However, if for some unfathomable reason he did call Jeremy - it begs the questions of why Jeremy didn't call 999? Didn't go over as requested? And waited 26 minutes before calling local police?

Because, as I have already postulated, at the time of that call it wasn't yet an emergency. Jeremy knew this because Neville didn't dial 999.

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 03:56:PM »
Because, as I have already postulated, at the time of that call it wasn't yet an emergency. Jeremy knew this because Neville didn't dial 999.

Right, so getting someone out of bed to answer the phone in the small hours to tell them a family member has gone mad and got hold of a gun doesn't constitute an emergency?

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2016, 04:01:PM »
 I'm sure that Neville in his wildest dreams never thought that Sheila would have used the " gun ". The call didn't include that she'd used it at that point.

Do we know how Sheila had been on other occasions when Neville used to ring Jeremy for his assistance with her ?

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Re: Why Bamber would dial 999.
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2016, 06:10:PM »
I'm sure that Neville in his wildest dreams never thought that Sheila would have used the " gun ". The call didn't include that she'd used it at that point.

Do we know how Sheila had been on other occasions when Neville used to ring Jeremy for his assistance with her ?

Here you go again!!  ;D ;D ;D Name ONE other occasion when Nevill rang Jeremy for assistance?  ::)
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